Dog Soldiers(2002) - When Training Becomes Survival!
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This week, Marc, Darren and Paul crack open Dog Soldiers (2002), the cult British action horror that puts a squad of soldiers on a training exercise in the Scottish Highlands — where things don't quite go according to plan.
PART 1 – The Nutshell – If you haven't seen it
A spoiler-free breakdown designed to help you decide if this British action horror is your kind of film and worth your time.
We explore the story of a group of British soldiers taking part in a training exercise in the Scottish Highlands, where their routine mission turns into a fight for survival.
We'll help you quickly understand the tone, style and experience of the film, from its mixture of horror, military action, British humour, gore and practical effects to the camaraderie between the soldiers.
By the end of Part 1, you will have made a decision!
PART 2 – The Unboxing – If you've seen it
What Did You Miss?
The things you missed, the details you didn't notice, and the hidden layers behind the film.
The lads explore the film's surprisingly convincing military camaraderie, the way the soldiers behave when the situation becomes serious, the practical effects, the importance of the group's individual personalities and some of the filmmaking choices that help turn a relatively simple setup into a memorable survival story.
Paul's Facts of the Day
Behind-the-scenes insights including:
- The making of the practical creature effects
- Neil Marshall's early filmmaking career
- Production stories from behind the scenes
- Details about the cast and characters
- Fascinating facts you probably didn't know
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Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker A:And they're good to go.
Speaker A:And I'm telling you guys, that gave me a no action.
Speaker B:2013.
Speaker A:Oh, earning the big bucks.
Speaker A:The size of the table.
Speaker B:Close.
Speaker B:Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Mark Farquhar, myself, Darren Horn and I, Paul Day, here.
Speaker B:Here's why you should tune in every week.
Speaker A:We help you make better movie choices on films you haven't seen with quick spoiler free breakdowns to help you decide if they're your kind of movie.
Speaker C:And we help you get more from the movies you have seen with things you missed and details you probably didn't know us.
Speaker B:Plus there's movie facts, trivia and behind the scenes stories.
Speaker C:There's also your chance to choose the movie.
Speaker B:So grab some popcorn and let's crack open this week's movie.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B: Dog Soldiers: Speaker B:This was chosen by Mr. Darren Horn.
Speaker B:So let's go into the nutshell.
Speaker A:This is about British soldiers, sort of the land.
Speaker A:British soldiers.
Speaker A:If you like the British accent, you're gonna fucking love this.
Speaker B:Indeed.
Speaker A:It's quality.
Speaker A:So it's a bunch of British soldiers who are on exercise up in the Highlands of Scotland and then they, they think it's an exercise where they're up against, you know, other soldiers and it turns out there's something else in the woods with them.
Speaker B:In this film turns into a fight for survival.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it's like a horrory kind of thing going.
Speaker B:It's definitely a horror film.
Speaker B:So they cut it from help and they must work together to survive the night.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker A:I would lean it towards more comedy and much like Fast and Furious last, it's.
Speaker A:You could double bill these, I think.
Speaker A:I know that there's very different type but it's Friday night drink, all genders, all ages really.
Speaker C:I think all ages.
Speaker A:For Dog Soldiers particularly, it's a.
Speaker B:You rated you well.
Speaker B:Four year old daughter.
Speaker C:There's a bit of gore going on.
Speaker B:2002 British action horror comedy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:See I didn't expect it to be a comedy so I was taking it quite.
Speaker C:And then it was like, oh no, this is quite funny, isn't it?
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker C:And then it's almost like a dark comedy though.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker B:It's not dark movie.
Speaker A:It's not like British comedy is dark.
Speaker C:Yeah, well this is what I was thinking.
Speaker C:It's not like wacky comedy so much as it's.
Speaker C:It's quite dark with its delivery.
Speaker A:Although Danish comedy is quite dark as well.
Speaker A:I saw this video recently, so this.
Speaker B:Has Become sort of a cult favorite.
Speaker B:It blends horror and military action with a bit of comedy.
Speaker A:I mean, is it cold?
Speaker A:Because people don't know about this film and.
Speaker B:Well, that means it's a cult then.
Speaker A:It was a first.
Speaker A:No, like.
Speaker B:But I know it was very popular.
Speaker B:People in the military, because they were really interested in that side of it.
Speaker B:Horror fans liked it.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I will talk to you about that.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Later.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's the first time.
Speaker A:The first feature film by Neil Jordan.
Speaker A:He had done a short film called Combat to prove he could do it.
Speaker A:And Combat is.
Speaker A:It's like a night out with the lads going out, get the bus into town and get drunk.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And they hit on women.
Speaker A:But the audio is like World War II battle.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:So it's like kind of planes going into attack will be like.
Speaker A:They've got.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Gunfire in the background.
Speaker A:She's getting shot down by the girls.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker C:Isn't that we all.
Speaker C:We all hear when we do that.
Speaker A:And then when they're kind of drunk on the bus.
Speaker A:It's like the kind of ships going in on D day and it's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What I meant was when this came out, it didn't do very well.
Speaker B:But since it's taken on a life of its own, especially with streaming and DVDs and stuff, it's kind of gained a following that way.
Speaker B:Hopefully it's found its audience eventually.
Speaker B:Is what I mean.
Speaker C:Kind of a smaller movie anyways.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah,.
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker A:But also, Neil Jordan didn't go on to do that much great stuff.
Speaker B:He did definitely low budget.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes, he did.
Speaker A:He did Doomsday, which I thought was atrocious.
Speaker A:And it was just.
Speaker A:He'd taken.
Speaker A:Neil Jordan's like a film fan.
Speaker A:He took so many scenes from other films and just threw them together in a movie for Doomsday.
Speaker C:I've seen he directed quite a lot of TV stuff, though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, I think he had Game of Thrones on his.
Speaker A:I think he did the center, which people like a lot.
Speaker C:The Descent.
Speaker C:I've heard of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is also cool because it's like.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Instead of guys in the Scottish Highlands, it's girls in somewhere's caves.
Speaker B:So this is reasonably fast paced, it's tense, it's suspenseful.
Speaker B:Strong focus on teamwork and camaraderie, I would say.
Speaker A:But also I think it does something which Fast and Furious didn't do that well is it really makes you like each character.
Speaker A:And I felt like they've got.
Speaker A:They've got basic personalities, but they've got individual personalities.
Speaker A:Like, it's a little bit like, oh, that guy likes football.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:But that makes him different from that guy.
Speaker A:So that's helpful.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's not just like, oh, these guys.
Speaker A:Race cars.
Speaker C:What is he.
Speaker C:What's he into?
Speaker C:He likes cars.
Speaker A:What about this guy?
Speaker A:Oh, he likes cars as well, but he likes green ones.
Speaker A:Oh, that's different.
Speaker C:He's a cool guy.
Speaker C:He likes screencast.
Speaker C:No, no, that's right.
Speaker C:It's true.
Speaker C:It talks you through kind of the squad as you're going through it, doesn't it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:People start telling stories and you get a bit to know about them.
Speaker B:What's this movie got?
Speaker B:It's quite a dark movie, I would say.
Speaker C:Overall, I wrote down it's almost like 28 days later in terms of its Englishness and its Britishness.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But it's like maybe Predator or Alien in terms of its.
Speaker B:Definitely got Predator.
Speaker B:Predator vibes.
Speaker C:Or even.
Speaker A:That's kind of.
Speaker A:That's almost taken from those movies.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Ant Tropic Thunder.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker A:Why is it with you Tropic Thunder today?
Speaker B:Parts of this reminded me of that, seeing what you.
Speaker B:A British version.
Speaker A:It's just a British dude pretending to be an American dude pretending to be.
Speaker C:Playing the other dude.
Speaker C:Blair Witch Project, maybe.
Speaker C:I've never seen the Blair Witch Project.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, yeah, but no.
Speaker B:Okay, I'm sure I've seen that.
Speaker C:But no, someone compared it to.
Speaker C:On one of the comparisons I was reading, I was like, okay, but I haven't seen it, so I don't know.
Speaker B:So if someone hasn't seen this, there is a bit of gore and violence, if you like that.
Speaker A:Some really good gore.
Speaker C:Yeah, good gore.
Speaker B:Some fairly memorable dialogue.
Speaker B:A single night survival story.
Speaker B:Relatively small cast.
Speaker B:I think it does give the chance for each character sort of shine and take their moment, which helps with the backstory.
Speaker A:It's also, I don't think, like a dumb horror.
Speaker A:Like, I think they make good decisions.
Speaker A:Like, you don't think these fucking idiots like, every step of the way.
Speaker A:It's so.
Speaker A:In a way, it's kind of intelligent.
Speaker A:And you root for them.
Speaker B:Similar films.
Speaker B:Aliens, second one, which I've not seen.
Speaker B:100% Predator, we said the Descent, you said.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:What's the Samurami films?
Speaker C:Evil Dead.
Speaker A:Evil Dead, yeah.
Speaker B:Assault on Precinct 13.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Almost chose that as my film, but yeah, you can.
Speaker A:I can see that.
Speaker B:I think it tries hard to blend the serious moments to it.
Speaker B:Horror and the military side.
Speaker B:Of it.
Speaker B:And a bit comedy as well.
Speaker C:And again, if like even I'm watching it going, it's very English, it's very British.
Speaker C:So if you're but Americans somewhere else,.
Speaker B:Americans tend to like I was gonna.
Speaker C:Say, so the Americans are gonna think it's even more British.
Speaker C:Like I love our accents.
Speaker A:We did an episode of Whitnell and I and it feels a little bit like with Mel and I.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:In the same way that Wednesday feels like November.
Speaker A:I'm not quite sure.
Speaker A:Why.
Speaker B:I have no idea.
Speaker B:Same time?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wednesday, November.
Speaker A:And is it 4:00pm I think it is.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:They just feel the same.
Speaker B:So who is this for?
Speaker B:If they're like what if they're like what?
Speaker B:What would you say if you like.
Speaker A:Action horror, Just a fun mindless movie.
Speaker B:Survival thrillers.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe a bit of that.
Speaker B:Bit of practical special effects.
Speaker C:Army stuff.
Speaker C:If you like army stuff.
Speaker A:I just think if you're a guy you're going to like it.
Speaker A:And I think part of it is because I don't know what your guys algorithm is like, but mine algorithm is a lot of videos of men dying into overwhelming odds with the Like a prayer by Madonna from Deadpool.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:It wasn't matching up until you died.
Speaker C:And then I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker A:Maybe I think women underestimate how guys want to die.
Speaker A:There is no I hope I died peacefully in my bed.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker C:When you call mad, that's what you want, isn't it?
Speaker C:Deadpool, Wolverine ending.
Speaker C:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker A:Send me into the burning building.
Speaker A:Let me be saving a doggo.
Speaker A:Let me be doing something.
Speaker C:Charging against an army of knights with a sword.
Speaker B:I would say the meats for this is Predator meets Tropic thunder with a dash of aliens.
Speaker A:I don't know where.
Speaker A:Guesses.
Speaker C:There's one scene I can see where he's getting this from.
Speaker B:That's my meets.
Speaker C:I'm saying 28 days meets 28 days later meets Predator.
Speaker A:I had Predator meets Soldier.
Speaker A:Soldier, which is a TV show.
Speaker C:That's a good call.
Speaker B:Just because he's got soldier in twice.
Speaker A:But it's also because it's.
Speaker A:Is it Robson Green and Jerome Flynn.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they are like British soldiers.
Speaker A:They could have been in this.
Speaker C:So I confess, I hate spelling the word soldier and the amount of times I had to try and write it when I make notes I'm like, I hate.
Speaker C:Try to spell this.
Speaker B:Not solder.
Speaker B:Soldier.
Speaker C:Yeah, but yeah, it's very much soldier.
Speaker C:Soldier meets.
Speaker C:That's good.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:We'll take that.
Speaker B:Thank you very much, gentlemen.
Speaker B:Okay, on to part two, the unboxing.
Speaker B:There's gonna be spoilers coming up as we unbox this movie.
Speaker B:So if you want to go and watch it, we recommend you do now.
Speaker B:Do so now so we don't spoil it for you.
Speaker B:So what do we miss?
Speaker B:I'm gonna go to your choice.
Speaker B:Darren, I'm gonna go straight over to you.
Speaker A:I don't think.
Speaker A:I think this is less going on than fast.
Speaker A:I don't think we missed that much.
Speaker C:And can we say the word werewolves now we're in spoiler territory.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is about werewolves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker A:I don't think we've missed that much.
Speaker A:I mean, I can talk a little bit about the kind of the military element, which I thought was really good.
Speaker A:And I thought the British.
Speaker A:I remember I've said before on the show that my ancestors and family are military and they go back freaking to every battle of the Crimean War.
Speaker A: s was in the Marines, I think: Speaker A:Yeah, I think it was just one of them.
Speaker A:And I remember I was watching it on my 4 by 3 TV in my bedroom and he came in and he was like, what are you watching?
Speaker A:I was like, this is pretty freaking good.
Speaker A:He's a cool dog.
Speaker A:Soldiers.
Speaker A:And they were.
Speaker A:And I'd seen some criticism of it somewhere where they skyline.
Speaker A:So that's when soldiers walk along, like the horizon.
Speaker A:So you stand out so your enemy can see you.
Speaker A:And people would criticize it and be like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:Like, real soldiers would never do that.
Speaker A:And my brother was like, yeah, they fucking would.
Speaker A:On a exercise in Scotland.
Speaker A:Who gives a.
Speaker A:But then.
Speaker A:And they are.
Speaker A:You could argue it and be like, oh, they're not that professional.
Speaker A:Or they're not taking it that seriously, but they're not taking it that seriously.
Speaker A:Like, squad is.
Speaker A:Don't take actual wars that seriously.
Speaker A:Like, and you can see, like, there's.
Speaker A:Is it.
Speaker A:That's Sean somebody's got.
Speaker A:There's lots of podcasts with, like, ex military personnel.
Speaker A:Sean somebody does one and he has lots of military.
Speaker A:Military guests.
Speaker A:And they talk about working with like, the British soldiers or the SS or whatever it is.
Speaker A:And he's like, they're just characters.
Speaker A:And, you know, they kind of bitch or they moan or whatever, but then they'd be like, all right, so this.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker A:And then they'll just be professional and they go and do the job and this happens.
Speaker A:In this, like, they're like, this is fucking bullshit.
Speaker A:Then they're like, isn't an exercise anymore.
Speaker B:Boom.
Speaker A:And it's like that scene in History of Violence where we've also done the show on, where the character just switches and all of them are like, how much ammo we got?
Speaker A:Catch this.
Speaker A:Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker A:And they're good to go.
Speaker A:And I'm telling you guys, that gave me a no.
Speaker A:It was such.
Speaker C:Because the teaser.
Speaker A:Yeah, because I love that kind of masculinity.
Speaker A:I love that kind of jokey.
Speaker A:Like, even, like, the boss is kind of Massage is kind of mocking them, this banter back and forth, and then they're really, really professional.
Speaker A:And I think there is that bit of, like, how do you want to go?
Speaker A:Like, how do you want to die?
Speaker A:And there's this inherent sense, you know, I'm talking this Gen X. I don't know how much it's gone down the generations, that to die in glory is a good thing.
Speaker A:Or maybe that's just me because, you know, my freaking background of, you know, my.
Speaker A:My entire life, basically, so.
Speaker A:But I also love it where one of the characters, it's.
Speaker A:I think it's Spoon, and he's chewing gum, looking out the window with a rifle, and he's like, reminds me of Rock Strip, doesn't it?
Speaker A:And what does he say?
Speaker A:Like, you know, 3,000 Zulu warriors, 30 British soldiers.
Speaker A:Balls of British steel.
Speaker A:The guy like, you're loving fucking loving this, aren't you?
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, like, watching this.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:We would, like.
Speaker A:If this had come out earlier and we'd been 10 years younger, we'd be playing this.
Speaker A:We'd all pick a character and we'd be just playing this in the street.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:Because it is like, there'd be an element and can't be true, but if zombies attacked or werewolves attacked or aliens attacked, there'd be an element where a lot of us would be fucking loving it.
Speaker A:And you see the zombie thing with.
Speaker C:Slow movies about you.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But if you look at.
Speaker A:What's it called?
Speaker A:The Night of the Living Dead, George, Mary's first one, those guys are freaking loving it.
Speaker A:Going around on a pickup with a rifle, just shooting zombies.
Speaker A:Sign me up.
Speaker C:And I must admit, I used to be very like, no, I don't want to do that.
Speaker C:But the way the world's going, I'm signing up with Darren at this point.
Speaker C:Like, let's get the zombies.
Speaker C:It's fine.
Speaker A:I think what this encapsulated really well is that sense of camaraderie, professionalism.
Speaker A:And there's a bit where the sarge is like, I'm a professional soldier.
Speaker C:And it's like you just say that.
Speaker A:I signed up for this.
Speaker C:It's like, yeah, when I signed on the line, didn't he?
Speaker C:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker C:Yeah, this is what I'm doing.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And I used to talk to my brothers about this when they were joining the Marines because used.
Speaker A:You know, I grew up in Plymouth, which is a big military town with Marines, Matlows and Army and I.
Speaker A:But you know, if I'm working in a bar as a barman and like 10 Marines walk in, everyone gets nervous.
Speaker A:I'm like, why is that?
Speaker A:Like, you guys should walk in and everyone should feel safer.
Speaker A:That's the reality of it.
Speaker B:Buy them a drink.
Speaker A:Yeah, it should be like that.
Speaker A:So if you're going to join, don't be a dick.
Speaker A:And then it was actually kind of cool because he.
Speaker A:They started referring to his unit as the Black Knights or something like that.
Speaker A:It was kind of.
Speaker A:Maybe it had an impact, don't know.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:In terms of what do we miss?
Speaker A:I think it's quite overt, but I really wanted to double down that.
Speaker A:I think that.
Speaker A:I think it's easy to overlook that because it doesn't feel as unique as it is, but I think at the same time that's very unique.
Speaker A:Rant over.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker C:I've got a.
Speaker C:What did you miss?
Speaker C:But it's nothing to do with the movie.
Speaker C:Okay, stick with me on this one.
Speaker C:This is the first time I've watched one in Amazon prime for a while.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker C:So, you know, I normally watch things on disc.
Speaker C:Amazon Prime.
Speaker C:I'm getting sucked into the movie.
Speaker C:It's all kicking off.
Speaker B:Oh, here we go.
Speaker C:Three minutes of adverts.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:That's normal, Paul.
Speaker C:I know, but I'm not used to it.
Speaker C:So I'm getting sucked in the minute and then the next thing.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:This is how you clean dishes.
Speaker B:That's what usually when I go make a break.
Speaker C:This is how you do the bathroom.
Speaker C:This is something else.
Speaker C:And I'm watching these adverts and it amazes me how much has gone into the adverts to actually the filming of the adverts themselves.
Speaker C:And I'm like, how many times can we make adverts about how to clean freaking dishes?
Speaker C:And then eventually the film comes back and I can get back into that world.
Speaker B:No, I don't think anyone will have missed that because most people do watch it streaming, so.
Speaker B:No, no one did miss that.
Speaker C:No, I know, but I just thought I have a small rant about the fact that I like immersing myself in the film.
Speaker C:So when the adverts come up for three minutes and take me out of it and tell me about watching powder, I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker C:I want to know if the guy lives or dies or if the werewolves about.
Speaker A:Dude, you should like that.
Speaker A:That's why physical media is making a huge comeback.
Speaker C:I know that's.
Speaker C:That was going to be my final thing on that, which is why I still prefer the physical.
Speaker A:So other things we may have missed is not finished.
Speaker A:Well, it's.
Speaker A:I'm kind of mentioned it a little bit earlier.
Speaker A:I think they do everything right.
Speaker B:What do you mean by everything?
Speaker A:Well, okay, let me work out.
Speaker C:Did they mean to blow up the car?
Speaker B:Let me work out what I mean.
Speaker C:Did they mean to blow up.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker C:That seemed like an error.
Speaker B:She did bad of water.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So they.
Speaker A:They do.
Speaker A:They do a lot of stuff.
Speaker A:So like immediately, okay, immediately they're like in the cabin and.
Speaker A:And they know they've got little ammo.
Speaker A:And immediately he's like, get boiling water on all the pots.
Speaker A:That's pretty quick to be like, okay, we need to do this.
Speaker A:Then they, they start thinking about the car and run into the car.
Speaker A:Then there's a bit where the werewolves claw comes kind of through the roof and he just pulls out a knife and starts stabbing it.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, that's quick thinking.
Speaker A:The fact they immediately go in and start eating because they're like, we need to keep our.
Speaker B:Our bodies on its stomach.
Speaker A:Like, I can't remember.
Speaker A:I. I have a thing about eating in movies anyway, because we don't tend to show it because it's really hard.
Speaker B:To keep, especially not women.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And because it.
Speaker A:It's really hard to keep continuity because you've got to be like, okay, as I say, continuity.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:How much of that sandwich is he ate?
Speaker A:And what.
Speaker A:What word did I eat the spoonful of beans on or whatever it is.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So it's cool that they're eating.
Speaker A:And it's also.
Speaker A:It feels correct that squad is what we're doing.
Speaker A:We can eat.
Speaker B:We're always fucking starving.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then they will then, oh, that's all I have a cup of tea.
Speaker A:They've been attacked by werewolves.
Speaker A:We've got time for a fucking cup of tea.
Speaker B:Sit the fucking kettle on.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:And then they solves it, and then they start kind of barricading everything.
Speaker A:And I love it.
Speaker A:And, you know, I don't know if you guys really believed, well, on the same side as me when I was saying about, you know, ways to die.
Speaker A:But look at Spoon's face when he finds that sword.
Speaker C:Are you loving the sword?
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:He was just like.
Speaker A:He gets it taken off him, he has to use a pan.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:I thought he was.
Speaker C:I thought he was going to go out in a blaze of glory with the sword.
Speaker A:At one point, like, it goes down.
Speaker A:It goes down.
Speaker A:Boxing punches.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:It's just like, come on, bring it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's like, spits at the web.
Speaker A:Hope I'll give you the shits.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker A:Quality is what it is.
Speaker A:And then you've also got balancing masculinity, because I do think they're professional.
Speaker A:And, you know, they've come to.
Speaker A:They had to kind of meditate on death.
Speaker A:And they've heard the story by the sarge, Sean Perchway, about, you know, his friends, you know, being killed in battle.
Speaker A:But, you know, Cooper, who's the lead, it's Kevin McKidd.
Speaker A:It's, you know, he's the hero.
Speaker A:He's freaking shaking.
Speaker A:You know, he's shaking from adrenaline.
Speaker A:He's trying to deal with it.
Speaker A:And then I think Joe throws up.
Speaker A:You know, like that.
Speaker A:They've got bravado and they're gonna deal with it.
Speaker A:They're gonna take care of business.
Speaker A:But it's having a physical impact on them.
Speaker B:You know, it's element of realism to that.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And it's funny as fuck.
Speaker A:I mean, at one point, the werewolf steals a shotgun and shoots it back at them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it wasn't that far into it where I suddenly went, yeah, this isn't the serious film I thought it was going to be.
Speaker C:Just because of the lines more than anything, I'm like, there's a bit.
Speaker A:Spoon says, I love it when a posh birds talks dirty.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:I think that's quality.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker A:And there's a doggo in it.
Speaker B:A dog.
Speaker C:A cute dog.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who survives.
Speaker A:So that also sets up the beginning as well, because Cooper's on special forces training and he lasts like 23 hours, which we.
Speaker A:We get the senses a good amount of time, but then he has to kill the dog.
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:He's like, I'm not saying I won't kill a dog.
Speaker A:I won't kill that dog.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is weird because you know, we talk about the hero's journey in other episodes, like, well, what was learned?
Speaker A:And it doesn't.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:I mean, they refuse the call.
Speaker A:And you can argue there's mentors, but the characters don't really grow, they just are.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's okay in this sense.
Speaker A:So I don't know, there's, you know, there's going to be things wrong with it.
Speaker A:Like, I suspect that that's the wrong type of helicopter to have when they land.
Speaker B:Apparently it's pretty accurate, really.
Speaker B:I don't know about the helicopter, but in general, as far as praise for.
Speaker A:Its accuracy, the helicopter, I was like, that's.
Speaker A:That's like a private helicopter.
Speaker A:But maybe they were dropped off by private helicopter.
Speaker B:But also it's only training.
Speaker B:It's only training, so it's not like they're actually in operation.
Speaker A:And then I was like, well, if you can't get a proper helicopter, like a military helicopter, do you need it?
Speaker A:And I was actually, you do need to drop off a helicopter.
Speaker B:They need training for the helicopter pilots.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're part of it.
Speaker B:So maybe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who knows?
Speaker A:But also dropping them off by helicopter really reinforced that they were in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You can't drop off by.
Speaker B:Further into the middle of.
Speaker B:Into the abyss by helicopter.
Speaker A:Yeah, totally.
Speaker B:I. I enjoyed the.
Speaker B:The very end.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The newspaper caught up.
Speaker B:Werewolves ate my platoon.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But also more important than that, England beat Germany 5 1, apparently.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:That was cool then.
Speaker A:It's interesting how Special Forces come across as well.
Speaker A:There was a slight antagonism, I thought, between like grunts and officers which also seen things like aliens, don't we?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So at one point the sergeant is like, now being.
Speaker A:He says something like, you are scaring my lad.
Speaker A:Now be a nice officer and shut the fuck up.
Speaker A:Or something like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a curiosity.
Speaker C:And the only thing I picked up on was the fact it was very practical effect driven.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I imagine at some point in history that have been like, let's make all the werewolves out of computer graphics.
Speaker C:But these were very practical suits, which probably gave it more.
Speaker A:And they do the keep them hidden thing.
Speaker A:Like you don't.
Speaker B:Less is more.
Speaker A:Less is more.
Speaker B:Definitely a fan of that.
Speaker C:Sort of built as it went along, didn't it?
Speaker B:Also on second viewing that I watched the second, but when I discovered this, when you go back to certain scenes, Megan's behavior is different on second viewing.
Speaker A:You think she's suss as fuck from the beginning.
Speaker B:And there's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Her reaction when the van blows up.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's not as.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:She doesn't feel as bad as they do.
Speaker B:She reaction is different to theirs, basically.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's interesting because I didn't see that switch coming.
Speaker B:And she.
Speaker B:She repeatedly encouraged her to stay at the farmhouse, like remaining calm under pressure and often appears to know more than everyone else.
Speaker A:I was also confused, like, is she part of the family or did she come to study them and get turned into one accidentally?
Speaker C:I think it was more the second.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Because she kept talking about the family as if, oh, they're nice people.
Speaker C:So I think she came to study them and then got turned in.
Speaker B:It's that.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's definitely a lesser small movie until a certain point when it's like, okay, full reveal.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:We talked in another episode about how we like it when movies reference.
Speaker A:Other movies come up.
Speaker A:What I show.
Speaker A:But here they say they cut the power.
Speaker A:Which I don't think as a writer, you can write the line, they cut the power and not know that's for maidens.
Speaker A:Because it's like, they cut the power.
Speaker A:What do you mean they cut the power?
Speaker A:And then there is also.
Speaker A:There is no spoon.
Speaker A:You can't have.
Speaker A:There is no spoon and not be quoting matrix.
Speaker C: Not in: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like, where Spoon.
Speaker A:There is no spoon.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, I think that was one of the facts, actually.
Speaker C:The fact that there's a Matrix reference.
Speaker A:And then just the last thing.
Speaker A:It's not so much I missed.
Speaker A:But I also thought that's one of the best just kind of drunk guy scenes I've seen where he's getting drunk, said, putting his sausages back in.
Speaker A:And he's like, I love you.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:And then he hits him.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I also love that bit.
Speaker A:Was it.
Speaker A:And he's like, hit me, hit me.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:Oh, you like, get me again.
Speaker A:Like, it was good.
Speaker A:And he says something like.
Speaker A:Because the script is clunky as hell in parts.
Speaker A:Like particular that opening with, you know.
Speaker A:Although I did like the opening where she's like, you know, it's a seal.
Speaker A:It's a sword for my writer.
Speaker A:But he was a really working class writer.
Speaker A:Not somebody who you would imagine, like, he feels like more of a builder, you know, he's like coded as a builder.
Speaker A:So I kind of like that.
Speaker A:And she's like.
Speaker A:And don't lose it.
Speaker A:You know, it's made of solid silver.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, that's.
Speaker A:What's it called?
Speaker A:A McGuffin?
Speaker A:No, no, it's a Chekhov's gun.
Speaker C:Ah, yeah.
Speaker A:So the theory is that if you introduce something in the first act, you have to use it by the end of the third act.
Speaker A:And in this case it's like, oh, and you hope that your dis is kind of forgotten.
Speaker A:And then they.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, I forgot there was a silver spoon, you know, But.
Speaker C:But when were wolves pop up, you're like, oh, the silver spoon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:See what you're doing there?
Speaker A:Yes, that was clunky.
Speaker A:But I like the line, I fucking love you.
Speaker A:Like, like, like something I love.
Speaker C:I thought Sean Pertwee was just great.
Speaker A:Sean Pertwee is somebody who most people won't know, I don't think, for almost anything, except for this golden era of cinema where he was in this.
Speaker A:A Cornish film called Blue Juice, which is about surfing, which has got Catherine Zeta Jones in.
Speaker A:And Ethan.
Speaker A:Oh, it's got.
Speaker A:From chainspot in Ewan McGregor.
Speaker A:McGregor in.
Speaker A:And then he was also in Soldier with Kurt Russell, which is a criminally overlooked movie.
Speaker C:He pops up in loads.
Speaker C:When you start noticing it, it just pops up a lot of things.
Speaker C:So he's actually the son of John Pertwee.
Speaker A:Oh, Doctor who.
Speaker C:Doctor who.
Speaker C:And I know him probably, or the thing I kind of saw him the most in was he was in Gotham.
Speaker C:He played Alfred.
Speaker A:Oh, of course he did Gotham.
Speaker C:And then when I watched him in that, I suddenly started noticing him in all these other things and I'm like, oh, there's Sean Pound.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Kevin McKidd.
Speaker A:It also hasn't been in that much.
Speaker A:He was in train spotting.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:He's also in Kingdom of Heaven, which I then went to watch.
Speaker A:I watched the Director's cut, I think, yesterday or day before.
Speaker A:Freaking phenomenal.
Speaker C:Kingdom of Heaven.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Three hours, nine minutes.
Speaker C:Whoa.
Speaker C:So would you just ignore the normal.
Speaker A:Cut and just go that 100%?
Speaker A:And then Liam Cunningham, who I always thought was over acting in this, and I never liked him and I still don't kind of like him in this.
Speaker C:Well, I don't think he meant to.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:He's the body, kind of.
Speaker A:But he's best known for Game of Thrones now, I would imagine.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's.
Speaker C:It's weird hearing him.
Speaker C:He's Irish, isn't he?
Speaker C:I think he's Irish.
Speaker C:I've seen him in other stuff as well since.
Speaker C:But that's funny.
Speaker C:That's like.
Speaker C:What was with, like, Sean Pertwee?
Speaker C:Liam Cunningham saw him in Game of Thrones and then you start seeing him in all these Other things.
Speaker C:Hey, it's thinking from Game of Thrones.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think budget limitations became one of this film strength.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think the flaws you could find with it.
Speaker A:It's a set.
Speaker A:Well, that's the budget or that's a little bit of an experience.
Speaker B:But it seems like they've worked well within.
Speaker B:Within that.
Speaker A:Well, it was always the idea if you wanted to be a filmmaker was, you know, in the past is you take, you know, five actors or so into an isolated location and you kill them.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:So you do Evil Dead or you do Dog Soldiers or you do, you know, even Cabin in the woods or you do even Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker A:You know, it's got flashbacks and stuff, but you take people to a warehouse and you shoot most of your movie there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's still kind of a good format.
Speaker A:I mean, look at back rooms now.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I haven't seen it, but it seems like a similar idea.
Speaker A:Take a handful of people to a location.
Speaker C:I checked out the budget, so according to IMDb it was estimated at 2 million.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:But that's dollars.
Speaker C:Whether that translates into English 7.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then gross worldwide was three and a half million.
Speaker B:So I'm initial release.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's not.
Speaker B:But later on it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think if this was released now, it would do infinitely better, potentially.
Speaker C:Especially on this wave of the ones you were just saying, because there was that one and then there was another one.
Speaker A:That obsession.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's gone absolute global.
Speaker C:And that wasn't a massive budget, was it?
Speaker B:But going back to the budget limitations, it instead of had to lean on heavily on like practical creature suits, clever lighting, editing fast.
Speaker B:Like some of the fast paced scenes, which I think some fans will probably see that it's actually helped it rather than hindered it.
Speaker C:They give it a certain style.
Speaker B:Think a bigger budget would have improved this film.
Speaker A:That bit where they're running through the forest, turning and firing and covering each other.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's a great scene.
Speaker B:Or it wouldn't have had as much of its charm with.
Speaker B:If you go over the top with things where you.
Speaker B:Because you can.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's time for Paul Day's Facts of the Day.
Speaker C:So some of the corpses hanging around in the basement were originally created for and used in Event Horizon.
Speaker C:Oh, guess who was in Event Horizon?
Speaker C:Sean Pertwee.
Speaker A:Oh, nice.
Speaker C:That was one of them times where I was like, hey, that's your pertree.
Speaker C:In the scene where Wells asks Cooper to knock him out, Kevin McKidd throws a stage punch the first time, but misjudges the distance the second and catches Sean Pertwee on the nose.
Speaker C:Pertwee didn't feel the punch, however, as he really was drunk for that scene.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker C:Maybe that's why he's acting so well.
Speaker C:Yeah, because he was actually pissed, which is nice.
Speaker C:Neil Marshall chose to use dancers as the werewolves instead of the typical stuntmen in order to highlight their grace and elegant movements.
Speaker A:That's a good choice.
Speaker C:The set was also designed size wise to force the creatures to have to bend a bit, thereby highlighting their statuesque physiques.
Speaker C:And they wore stilts in their costumes to make them look a foot taller.
Speaker C:I'm trying to think, was it the Frankenstein guy?
Speaker C:Was he like training dance phase movement or something?
Speaker C:Can't remember now.
Speaker C:Jacob Alordi.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, possibly.
Speaker C:I'm sure there was something in that somewhere, but, yeah, there you go.
Speaker C:So dancers, rather than stuntman Sean Pertwee asked Neil Marshall if he could have a few drinks.
Speaker C:But I thought we'd keep sticking on this one because I'm interested.
Speaker B:You're better when you're drunk.
Speaker C:If he could have a few drinks before shooting the scene where his character gets drunk and bandaged up and the director said yes.
Speaker C:I don't know how many a few was, but it's way more authentic drunk acting than you often get in movies.
Speaker C:So I was happy with that.
Speaker C:So I guess that's.
Speaker C:Oh, that's what the director said.
Speaker C:So, Sean Method.
Speaker C:Act in there for a good cause.
Speaker C:Simon Pegg was offered a part in the film, but turned it down after Edgar Wright asked him.
Speaker C: use that didn't come out till: Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:Because I wonder that.
Speaker C:Because there is elements of Shaun of the Dead with it being British.
Speaker A:Don't think he would have worked in this.
Speaker C:No, I don't think he would have.
Speaker C:Another reference homage to Zulu is when Cooper's character is trapped in the bathroom upstairs and he begins tunneling through the wall to get to Wells.
Speaker C:The two of them then proceed to break through the wall to the bedroom, mirroring the scene in Zulu where Hook is in the hospital as the Zulus break in.
Speaker A:I love all that.
Speaker A:Where are you?
Speaker A:The carsi.
Speaker B:Where?
Speaker A:I'm in the car.
Speaker B:Sea.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Let's get in the cupboard.
Speaker C:Sean Portwood's character, Sergeant Harry G Wells, is named after HG Wells, one of the writer, director Neil Marshall's favorite authors.
Speaker B:Surprise, surprise.
Speaker C:Kevin McCabe cracked a rib in the first few days of shooting.
Speaker C:But he hid it from Marshall for fear of being replaced.
Speaker C:He eventually decided the pain was too much and revealed the injury, at which point Marshall replaced him with Jason Statham, who turned it down due to his commitment and scheduling conflicts with the Ghosts of Mars.
Speaker C:So my kid was rehired.
Speaker A:My God.
Speaker C:So McKidd was rehired after his injury healed up.
Speaker C:That could have been.
Speaker A:Well, firstly, Ghost of Mars is John Carpenter.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Which you would hope would be a good film.
Speaker C:2001.
Speaker A:It is quite possibly one of the worst films that has ever been made.
Speaker A:And Jason Statham is not good.
Speaker A:And I love Jason Statham movies.
Speaker C: That's where he was in: Speaker B:Not a good year.
Speaker B:Not a good year.
Speaker C:But how bad's that?
Speaker C:Like I've had this injury.
Speaker C:I've been hiding it from you.
Speaker C:So don't get sacked.
Speaker C:Oh, well, sorry, you sacked.
Speaker C:We're gonna go and get Jason Statham.
Speaker C:Oh, he's filming.
Speaker C:Oh, you hired again.
Speaker A:It'd be different as well.
Speaker A:Because you'd expect him to win more Jason Statham.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he expects to be more Jason Statham.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I told you to stop howling.
Speaker A:And you're still howling.
Speaker C:Got full beekeeper on the other two.
Speaker B:Minutes five minutes ago.
Speaker A:Make me a cup of tea.
Speaker C:I feel like AI is going to do this at some point.
Speaker C:They're just gonna edit them in.
Speaker A:There's a really funny comedian.
Speaker A:I can't remember.
Speaker A:He's an American comedian who does voices.
Speaker A:And if you just find.
Speaker A:Try and find a comedian doing Jason Statham.
Speaker A:He does it perfectly.
Speaker A:It's really good.
Speaker B:One of his lines.
Speaker B:This would be good.
Speaker A:I put it in the show.
Speaker B:Now we are fucked.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:We talk about continuity with food before.
Speaker C:There's a clock on the wall in some scenes that almost guaranteed continuity issues.
Speaker B:Because it's no battery.
Speaker B:So it's the same time every time.
Speaker C:Well, classic to get around that.
Speaker C:They smashed it to ensure the hands broke in the same spot, therefore not causing a problem.
Speaker C:But these are the things you forget when you just watch a movie, don't you?
Speaker C:The amount, you know, angles and stuff.
Speaker C:It's easy to miss them.
Speaker C:Continuity things.
Speaker C:Go on, then.
Speaker B:One more.
Speaker C:Yeah, let's do that one.
Speaker C:Because that links into one of the things.
Speaker C:One of the soldiers in this movie is called Bruce Campbell, a reference to the Evil Dead Bruce Campbell.
Speaker C:Obviously.
Speaker C:He plays Ash.
Speaker A:Bruce Dice Fest.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think he doesn't he.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's also what's shocking because you like.
Speaker A:You do like these lads and they're running and then he runs into a branch.
Speaker C:Well, these things happen.
Speaker C:They do in horror films.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker A:That's why you shouldn't run.
Speaker A:Yeah, running is bad for your health.
Speaker B:Thank you very much, Paul.
Speaker B:That takes us on to hate it or rate it.
Speaker B:And it is Mr. Darren Horn's movie choice.
Speaker B:So we are going straight over to the Horn section.
Speaker A:It's been a while since I've watched this and it is, it is clunky.
Speaker A:And you're right, it's got low budget.
Speaker A:There's some lines that it is clunky, but it does something good.
Speaker A:That Dust of Dawn doesn't do well is it establishes genre in the first scene.
Speaker A:So you know something is in the woods and then you forget about it.
Speaker A:In the same way that Predator starts with a spaceship landing or heading towards the earth, the Thing does the same.
Speaker A:You establish genre.
Speaker A:Dusk of dawn doesn't do that until like is it halfway five minutes in?
Speaker A:And so everyone's like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:I was watching a crime movie.
Speaker A:They don't like it when you.
Speaker A:The audience wants to know what to expect.
Speaker A:And it does that well.
Speaker A:But I freaking adored it.
Speaker A:I really liked it.
Speaker A:I really liked those characters.
Speaker A:I loved hanging out with them.
Speaker A:I wished more of them had survived.
Speaker A:I would love to have been a sequel.
Speaker A:I'd love it just to see these guys.
Speaker A:The sequel wouldn't even have to be a horror movie.
Speaker A:Just send them to frickin Iraq or Candice.
Speaker A:I just want to hang out with these guys.
Speaker C:Some of the facts were around them trying to get a sequel and stuff.
Speaker C:But if they had done a sequel, the mostly dead.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:I know, right?
Speaker C:That's the problem with having a prequel.
Speaker A:I just like the idea of pretty genuine, like British Squad is just being like, this is bone.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is fucking.
Speaker B:And suddenly being called to real action.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then, and then stepping up to the mark and being like, no, we can do it, we just don't want to do it.
Speaker B:Bullshit.
Speaker B:Train exercise.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:So I just, I really did have a ball.
Speaker A:I had a smile on my face for most of it.
Speaker C:Salt of the fucking earth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it did bring out the teenager in me who, you know, obviously I wouldn't really want to be in a whale from myself, but the boy in me would like, I'd love it.
Speaker A:And finding the sword.
Speaker A:And you guys have all done it.
Speaker A:You guys look at me like I'm the odd one out or I'm like a child.
Speaker A:Sometimes if you're on a walk somewhere and you find A branch or a stick that looks like a sword.
Speaker A:You're picking it up.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:All over.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Or even a good staff.
Speaker A:You'll be, oh, this is a good staff.
Speaker C:I mean, a wizard or a knight or something.
Speaker C:Exactly, yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it brings out the inner child.
Speaker A: kind of, to a certain extent,: Speaker A:It's joyful, and I don't think Fast and Furious didn't have that element of joy.
Speaker A:This is joyful.
Speaker A:And I think there's so little joy in the world these days that if you just want to have fun for 1 hour, 44 minutes.
Speaker A:And I don't think that dragged.
Speaker A:And it moved quite quick, the pacing moved.
Speaker A:Because it's kind of semi three locations, isn't it?
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:It's the setup, then it's the kind of running through the woods and then it's the house.
Speaker B:The house, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I had a ball.
Speaker A:I don't know how high I want to go with it.
Speaker A:Let's go 7.7.
Speaker B:Over to you, Paul.
Speaker C:This grew on me as I was watching it, as I was first getting there, because I thought it was going to be a really serious film.
Speaker C:I was like, what the hell is even this?
Speaker C:What's going on?
Speaker C:And then the bit where obviously Sean Pertwee's putting his guts back in Tropical Thunder style.
Speaker C:I'm like, this.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker C:This isn't.
Speaker C:Is it meant to be funny?
Speaker C:Because it's pretty funny.
Speaker A:They won't fit.
Speaker A:Of course they'll fit.
Speaker C:I'm like, okay, I've misjudged the tone of this film.
Speaker C:So I was kind of adapting as I went through.
Speaker C:But you're right, the genre of.
Speaker C:It's clear.
Speaker C:It's werewolf sort of film.
Speaker C:Obviously low budget as well.
Speaker C:And that took a bit of adapting because I think what I'd watched previously was a big budgety thing.
Speaker C:And I was then watch this.
Speaker C:And I'm like, what?
Speaker C:Okay, small budget, fine.
Speaker C:I almost feel like the acting is.
Speaker C:It's gonna sound weird to say it's like almost the British popcorn version of maybe what Fast and the Furious was in the sense of that's the American style of like, hey, Brian, you come into my hood, whereas this is the British like, you squad it, you know, I mean, it's kind of that exaggerated popcorn sort of ex.
Speaker C:Yeah, but I enjoyed that.
Speaker C:And the more it went through, the more I was enjoying it.
Speaker C:I'm not into horror, though, so I do get to the bit in these films where I'm just like, this is the whole film now, isn't it?
Speaker C:It's just werewolves chase, but then there's some good twists at the end.
Speaker A:It wasn't scary, was it?
Speaker C:No, no, not the.
Speaker C:Not that part of it.
Speaker C:Just the fact with horror, it's always like the film is there.
Speaker C:Being chased by for the film, aren't they?
Speaker A:I didn't like the bit with the sword in his teeth.
Speaker C:Yeah, that was.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, that was a bit cringy.
Speaker A:No, it wasn't so much cringey.
Speaker A:I was just like, ah, my God, I don't want to be in this movie anymore.
Speaker C:No, I CR.
Speaker C:As in like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it grew on me as I went along.
Speaker C:I felt it was like somewhere in the middle.
Speaker C:But I'm gonna bump it up a bit.
Speaker C:It's not my.
Speaker C:It's not my kind of thing because Sean Pertwee was freaking awesome and I love him.
Speaker C:I mean, they're all.
Speaker C:They were all good in the roles.
Speaker B:What did you Give it, Darren?
Speaker A:7.7.
Speaker B:7.7.
Speaker C:I like the role of the lady.
Speaker C:I forgot the actress's name.
Speaker A:Emma Kneesby.
Speaker C:That's her.
Speaker C:I thought she was good in it because I didn't sort of see that twist coming.
Speaker C:And then when it came.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker C:Oh, that was good.
Speaker C:So I enjoyed her.
Speaker C:But, yeah, no, Sean, for me, was the one who was like, bumping up for me because I'm like, this is hilarious.
Speaker C:Some of his lines, I kept not writing them in time to save one at the end, but, like, yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker C:And the camaraderie was good, so I'm trying to score it.
Speaker C:So Predator is kind of the.
Speaker C:The other one on this.
Speaker C:I still pick Predator over that, an alien, but it did what it did very well on a very low script.
Speaker C:I can see why you enjoyed it so much.
Speaker C:I'm not into the soldier stuff as much as you probably, but I did enjoy the Banner.
Speaker C:I'm gonna give it a good solid.
Speaker C:I'll give it six as well.
Speaker B:Over to me, this is a huge pile of dog.
Speaker B:I hate everything about this movie.
Speaker C:Oh, no, I just.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:It tries to too much to balance three different genres.
Speaker B:You've got the horror, you've got the action side of it and the comedy, and they just don't work.
Speaker B:It just doesn't work.
Speaker B:When it got to the.
Speaker B:I didn't even realize it was a comedy until the guts thing.
Speaker C:Well, that's a similar point.
Speaker C:I got way into the film.
Speaker B:I did not laugh if there was funny Parts before, I did not laugh.
Speaker C:It's fairly early that I did not.
Speaker B:I mean, there's a couple of lines at the end like that where a guy goes, I can murder a kebab.
Speaker B:I did find that funny, but just generally, I just.
Speaker B:I didn't care about any of the characters.
Speaker B:I didn't like.
Speaker B:I didn't like the camaraderie.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I'm not into the military stuff.
Speaker A:Not into horror, but you like Fast and Furious.
Speaker A:What'd you get?
Speaker A:Fast and Furious 7.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:For me, this just doesn't work.
Speaker B:This does not work.
Speaker B:It's trying to be too many different things.
Speaker B:It was trying to be a military movie.
Speaker B:I would have got it, then added the horror, the funny.
Speaker B:Like, I didn't laugh at any funny bits.
Speaker B:I wasn't scared of any of the scary bits.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:It just didn't make sense to me.
Speaker C:I kind of get what you mean about the characters.
Speaker C:It took me a while to sort of start defining funny lines, but I just didn't.
Speaker B:This group of characters, for me, I don't know if there wasn't enough backstory for them or.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:You did get to know something a little bit, but for me, I just.
Speaker B:I didn't get it.
Speaker B:It just didn't work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:How are you watching it?
Speaker A:What was your kind of vibe?
Speaker B:I was on my own and I watched it all in one go.
Speaker A:That's interesting.
Speaker A:That night, like I said.
Speaker A:I don't think I said it on podcast last week, but I think I liked Fast and Furious because I'd also been driving around a lot in cyberpunk and also playing the Mad Max game, flying around, hitting my nitro, and I was like, yeah, I've got nitro on my car.
Speaker A:But I think you're probably right that this is, like.
Speaker A:This is part of my childhood and part of, you know, growing up with Marines and Navy and army, and it's like, I get the lingo.
Speaker A:Like, when he says that, he says something like, rtu.
Speaker A:This piece of, like.
Speaker A:I know RTU means Return to Unit because.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So for me, yeah, I got bored.
Speaker B:I really got bored.
Speaker B:I felt like I'd wasted an hour and 44.
Speaker B:When I finished this movie.
Speaker A:Jesus, I was dropping the box.
Speaker B:I didn't like it, so I'm gonna give it a 3.1.
Speaker A:What did you give Empire Records?
Speaker A:Because I haven't given you for that either.
Speaker B:Higher than that.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:I like how I think I gave around a five.
Speaker C:It's these moments where it feels like Freaky Friday where there's like the body swap thing going on.
Speaker A:I think I always get labeled as the guy who shits on movies and it's really not true.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:Well, you shit on Jurassic Park, I'll never forgive you for that.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Still holding a grudge?
Speaker B:Well, yeah, it's just opinions.
Speaker B:We're all still friends.
Speaker B:So this gives it 16.8, which puts it in 60th out of 82.
Speaker A:That's a shame.
Speaker B:So it's just behind the beach and Birds of Prey, Harlequin.
Speaker B: And it's just above charade,: Speaker C:It's interesting.
Speaker C:It's next to the beach because it's very much Danny Boily.
Speaker C:So similar time as well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:A couple of years later.
Speaker C:Interesting.
Speaker B:That's what we thought.
Speaker B:We'd love to know what you thought.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:What would be a good follow up after this that we've done in our back catalog?
Speaker C:Predator.
Speaker B:Predator and Alien.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're probably the two standout ones.
Speaker B:So if you like, if you like those movies, I mean, you also like this.
Speaker B:I think that'd be a good follow up episode.
Speaker A:But also if you just want an insight into what British is like.
Speaker A:Yeah, like with Nyla and I like that's.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's different demographic, but that's.
Speaker A:Those guys are British guys.
Speaker A:Like you recognize the very British.
Speaker A:I'm peachy mate.
Speaker A:I'm peachy mate.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker B:That takes us into the listener lounge.
Speaker B:Let's start with the lobby.
Speaker B:So we have an email.
Speaker B:It says, hi lads, I'm a fairly new listener and I've been working my way through some of your back catalog.
Speaker B:One thing I'm still trying to get my head around, which is funny because what we just talk about is how each of you scores the films in recent.
Speaker B:In a recent episode, Darren mentioned that.
Speaker B:Darren mentioned that Mark and Paul can sound quite critical in the discussion but end up giving what he thinks is a decent score.
Speaker B:You both came back saying Darren does the opposite.
Speaker B:He'll sound reasonably positive about a movie, but then give it a really low score on paper.
Speaker B:That makes it sound like he didn't enjoy it at all.
Speaker B:It got me wondering whether you all have a slightly different.
Speaker B:Slightly different ways of using your 10 point scale.
Speaker B:Are you scoring the film against all the films ever made against others in the same genre or simply how you much you enjoyed it?
Speaker B:I'd love to hear how each of you approaches the ratings because I think it'll help me understand the scores a bit better.
Speaker B:Cheers.
Speaker B:And that's from Michael from Nottingham.
Speaker A:For me, I definitely do it with how much I enjoyed it in that moment, which tends to be.
Speaker A:While give a little bit of backstory as to how I was watching it.
Speaker A:So, like, if I'm, you know, I.
Speaker B:Think I should probably do that more.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because, like, if you're watching, say, a romantic film, but you're in a loving relationship watching it with your girlfriend, then it's going to land a bit more.
Speaker A:But if you've just been through a breakup, it's gonna suck.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And like we just seen with dog Soldiers, like, I. I enjoyed it because, you know, I grew up with, like, people like this.
Speaker A:And even when I was working in a barman, I. I served, like to the landlords, I. I worked.
Speaker A:It was in Plymouth, it's the Two Trees.
Speaker A:And then it was the Pick and Truffle, which is now called the Eagle.
Speaker A:Both were run by ex marines.
Speaker A:You know, it's like I just grew up with that, those type of people.
Speaker A:And I enjoy it, so it tends to be how I feel.
Speaker A:I might give it a bit of a boost or a pullback, like.
Speaker A:So, like, Godfather is a masterpiece.
Speaker A:I probably didn't enjoy it exactly the right grade, but I gave it a bump up.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker A:Or like Birds of Prey?
Speaker A:I think I gave one extra because I know people were on it and I. I think it should have been applauded a bit more.
Speaker A:But it's only one or two, like one up or down, that something else will sway other than that, it's how much did I enjoy it?
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's kind of how I go.
Speaker A:And I know from what Paul has said, you tend to do the same, but you also go more on if it's a good film.
Speaker A:Like, I can't see, if you watch, let's say Sits and Kane and you don't enjoy it, I imagine you would still give it a good.
Speaker C:Yeah, mine's a bit of a balance between the two.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Because I always ask that, let's make it clear, I hate writing them.
Speaker C:I always said this.
Speaker C:I like to just enjoy them as they are without having to put a number on it.
Speaker C:But then you make us write them, so I have to think, no, we.
Speaker B:Asked the listeners, they asked us to write them.
Speaker C:You listeners made me write these and I hate writing them because I just like to enjoy them as they are.
Speaker C:And there'll be some I enjoy less than others, but I don't really like to Put numbers on it.
Speaker C:So they make me do that.
Speaker C:So it's kind of a mix of what Darren said, where it's like, how much did I enjoy it as me.
Speaker C:And sometimes it's like a really crappy film and you're like, I don't care, I enjoyed it.
Speaker C:And nostalgia, as you've probably heard, if you've heard some of the past ones.
Speaker C:If it's a nostalgia one for me, it boosts it right up.
Speaker C:Like I throw tens out.
Speaker C:If it's him and nostalgia and it's like a special place from, you know, or it's a film I've watched a lot and see you go the other way sometimes around films you've watched a lot.
Speaker C:You tend to be like, oh, I'm kind of bored of it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've always choose them.
Speaker A:There's great movies I want to pick.
Speaker A:I'm just too familiar.
Speaker C:Whereas if I'm really familiar with it, I will champion that film and be like, no, no, this is why I love this film.
Speaker C:And then sometimes I do put in the.
Speaker C:I try and rate them as high as I can because I know how much goes into making films.
Speaker C:So it has to be really unenjoyable for me or really badly made for me to market really low.
Speaker C:That's why I don't do that many low scores.
Speaker C:Or it's like they've got millions of dollars and really this is the best they can come up with.
Speaker A:That was the Minecraft argument, wasn't it?
Speaker C:That's why that one for me was like, hang on, they've got Jack Black and they've got all these people.
Speaker C:They've got all this effect.
Speaker B:Why isn't this shit?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So then I tend to mark it now, this one, like, probably somewhere in the middle for me, but because budget Plucky.
Speaker A:It's a plucky movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So that moves me up the grades.
Speaker C:Like they didn't have any money to work with this.
Speaker C:I thought Sean Pertwee was really funny in it.
Speaker C:I like the banner, but then I'm a bit like you with the characters.
Speaker C:Maybe I didn't see them as individually as you did, Darren.
Speaker C:So, yeah, it depends.
Speaker C:But a nostalgia button for me boosts it right up.
Speaker C:And I always try and give props to.
Speaker C:Even if it's like costumes are doing well or lightning's done well, I'll try and give that props and put it in the say so.
Speaker C:It's how much I enjoyed it versus a bit of the craftsmanship of the film.
Speaker C:So like you say, yeah, if I watch a really good, well made film but I don't enjoy it that much.
Speaker C:I'm still not going to give it a ship mark because it's a well made film.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Whereas I feel like you would be like, no, I had a shit week and it was a rom com.
Speaker B:Well, that's what makes the, that's what makes the Legend League.
Speaker B:So it's unique.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:What about you?
Speaker C:What's your.
Speaker B:I'm kind of different because I obviously, especially if I haven't seen it, I don't look it up like this.
Speaker B:I didn't even know what the genre was.
Speaker B:I just, well, I knew it was kind of, kind of semi serious because I could tell by, by the artwork.
Speaker B:But I've just like.
Speaker B:Mine's pretty much a blank, blank plate, blank slate.
Speaker B:So it's just showing how it makes me feel.
Speaker B:And if I got, if I got it, did I get this movie?
Speaker B:What did it make me feel?
Speaker B:And just generally what was my reaction when it finished?
Speaker B:How was I feeling?
Speaker B:So I just kind of go, go with that.
Speaker B:So quite often with a lot of these films, obviously it's a blank slate.
Speaker B:I've not seen it.
Speaker B:Sometimes when it has.
Speaker B:Has a film then I'm sort of comparing it to when they watched it the first time.
Speaker B:That's why I think what would I have given it then versus what do I think it now?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's, it's pretty simple for me.
Speaker A:And don't put too much stock in our grades because we could watch those the same movie a month later and they will get different grades.
Speaker B:These are not just, it's just our opinion.
Speaker C:I forget what I've given it half the time sometimes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So when we get into sequels, I'm going to be like, what did I give the original?
Speaker C:Do you feel this is better or worse or the same?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like our intent is to entertain you.
Speaker A:Like it's, that's it.
Speaker A:And sometimes given a low score is funny.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I like our differing opinions and it seems to be getting more diverse as we're getting to know each other and we just getting to do this more.
Speaker B:Basically.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like if you want to watch well made movies, go to the, you know, BFI's top 100 movies top 10 because.
Speaker B:Clearly we all agree that miivers are good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But they might not be well made because you know, when we haven't done Pitch Perfect or Step up yet and there'll be 10 out of 10 movies,.
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure I, I want to throw a tin cup in there at some point.
Speaker C:But, you know, I don't know how much you guys are into golf.
Speaker C:That's gonna sway whether you like the movie.
Speaker C:Probably.
Speaker B:We have another email, so let's.
Speaker B:Let's move on.
Speaker B:So, Michael from Knocking, I hope that answers your question.
Speaker B:Actually quite enjoyed recapping how we do that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I still don't really know how I do it, but.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So here's another one.
Speaker B:Says, hi, lads.
Speaker B:Love the pod.
Speaker B:I loved your episode on Zodiac, which is very recent.
Speaker B:It's one of my favorite movies.
Speaker B:You have some valid points and I do agree with Mark that the gruesome murder scenes were for the most part unnecessary.
Speaker B:But I still think it's a fantastic movie.
Speaker B:Did you see in the news recently about the guy who was jailed for life of multiple murders?
Speaker B:Who said the TV show Dexter was his inspiration?
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:It's hard to think someone could take inspiration to that level.
Speaker B:Keep up the good.
Speaker B:Keep up the great work.
Speaker B:That's from Seb Davids in Manchester.
Speaker B:I actually, I looked it up, so I've got it here.
Speaker B:Former builder James Desborough, 40, is being sentenced today.
Speaker B:Police are reviewing the deaths of four people who shared a homeless shelter with convicted triple murderer James Desborough.
Speaker B:The 40 year old has been sentenced today to a whole life order for the murder of two men he previously lived with in a homeless hostel in Newquay, in Cornwall.
Speaker B:This means he will never be released.
Speaker B:Their bodies were dismembered and hidden in a woodland.
Speaker B:James Desborough, who said he was a fan of the serial killer show Dexter, murdered Daniel Coleman, 43, and Claudio Anguillo, 57, last summer.
Speaker B:He's already serving a life sentence for strangling his prison cellmate.
Speaker B:Jesus Christ.
Speaker B:While waiting for his trial because he was irritated by his snoring.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:There's a tricky thing.
Speaker A:Is it correlation or causation?
Speaker A:Like, did that guy like Dexter because he wanted to kill people or did he watch Dexter and that made him want to kill?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:And we all had that in the past, like Clockwork Orange, a scene.
Speaker A:And that was recreated.
Speaker A:A really nasty scene in that.
Speaker A:And Stanley Kubrick pulled the movie, didn't he?
Speaker A:For a while, I think.
Speaker A:And then you've got the Jamie Bulger killers, which I don't.
Speaker A:We're not going to go into, but you can Google that.
Speaker A:And that was associated with Child's Play 4.
Speaker A:Was it?
Speaker A:Was it Child's Play 1?
Speaker C:One of them.
Speaker A:So we don't know it.
Speaker A:What we know is that Child's Play VHS was in the house where Those kids lived.
Speaker A:And would they worry?
Speaker A:They may have, you know, because videos didn't used to have age restrictions.
Speaker C:No, they didn't in the early days.
Speaker A:No, that's where the video Nasty's kind of panic came from, because you could just go in and you, you know, pick a video based on the artwork and you could watch anything.
Speaker A:And then they brought in certification.
Speaker C:I didn't realize that.
Speaker C:I thought they were always, like, films that the certificate.
Speaker A:Then they brought in gaming certification as well.
Speaker B:Thank you for emails, guys.
Speaker B:That's pretty cool.
Speaker B:Go on to the question of the week.
Speaker B:Quick recap from a previous one about the best Spider Man.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:I put the poll up.
Speaker B:And what did it say?
Speaker B:It said was pretty close, actually.
Speaker B:It was 33 to Toby Maguire, 27 to Tom Holland, and Andrew Garfield got 40%.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:So Garfield won it.
Speaker A:I don't know how Tom didn't win that.
Speaker B:Okay, that was out of 57 votes.
Speaker A:So also, props to the Zodiac person for not on me for hating your film.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker C:So I've been thinking about the Spider man question all week.
Speaker B:Have.
Speaker C:You know, and I still can't pick one.
Speaker C:So move on.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Question of the week.
Speaker B:I put out asking for the question of the week this time, and we got one from Esther Sampson, who asked, which movie has kept you gripped from beginning to end?
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There'll be tons.
Speaker A:But the one immediately that comes to mind is the movie Warrior, Tom Holland and Joel Edgerton.
Speaker A:Because I can distinctly remember watching the first.
Speaker C:I said Holland because Tom Hardy.
Speaker A:And it needs to be Tom Hardy in that.
Speaker A:I think that was gripping.
Speaker A:But then there's other movies like 12 Angry Men, which you wouldn't expect to be a lot of good.
Speaker A:John Carpenter, like the Thing and the Fog.
Speaker A:The Mist is very tense and good.
Speaker A:The Departed.
Speaker C:I think there's lots, like, there'll be films where I come out and be like, I really enjoyed that all the way through.
Speaker C:But gripped as in on the Edge, you see Thriller or just Gripped as in I'm in general just like it.
Speaker C:I remember being in really Gripped by the new Blade Runner because I was like, oh, when's Harrison Ford gonna be in this?
Speaker C:And Ryan Gosling was in it.
Speaker A:And I'd also go 13 hours.
Speaker A:I think that's brilliant and gripping.
Speaker A:From the European scene.
Speaker C:The one where there's the rock or something.
Speaker A:The rock?
Speaker C:No, no, not the rock.
Speaker C:He's on a rock.
Speaker A:Although the rock would be good.
Speaker C:Is it.
Speaker C:Is he climbing or something on the rock?
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker A:127,13 Hours is soldier.
Speaker A:I can't remember.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker C:This is the Michael Bay one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:John.
Speaker A:John Krasinski.
Speaker C:Ah, yeah, you keep saying this one's good.
Speaker A:And it's called the subtitle.
Speaker A:It's like Soldiers of the Something something.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:But there's also another one called the Siege of Jadotville which is based on a true story.
Speaker A:And going in knowing that's a true story that will get keep you on the edge of your seats.
Speaker B:Misery for me.
Speaker B:Oh, Kept me gripped till the end.
Speaker B:Great film.
Speaker B:Apparently the book is better.
Speaker C:Oh, people say first time I watched Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker C:Am I going in a territory of popcorn films again?
Speaker A:No, I think the first time you watch it, that is gripping.
Speaker B:I've not seen any of those.
Speaker B:I remember coming out single one.
Speaker C:Have you not?
Speaker C:I remember coming out of the cinema after the first one.
Speaker C:I enjoyed them all.
Speaker C:But I remember coming out of the cinema after the first one especially and being like, oh, that was fun.
Speaker A:It's got great opening scene.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then, you know the bit in the jail and it just kind of.
Speaker C:Keeps going on it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Thank you, Esther.
Speaker A:So Esther didn't give us her one.
Speaker B:No, she didn't.
Speaker B:She just asked the question.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're allowed to answer the question as well.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker A:What's.
Speaker A:What movie keeps you quit from beginning to end.
Speaker B:Hopefully she'll tell us, let us know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:If you would like your question read out, send them in and we'll pick out the best one and be featured on the show that takes us on to next week's movie, which is over to Mr. Paul Day.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, Paul, don't drop the ball.
Speaker C:Okay?
Speaker C:You boys with your fast cars over there and your soldiers hunting werewolves over here.
Speaker C:I think when you bring it back, I think it's about time that we go rom com.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker B:It's been while since we had a.
Speaker C:Paul Day rom com and I've just given away in that intro I'm gonna go for.
Speaker C:It's one me and Darren have talked about, but I don't think you've seen before.
Speaker C:It's a Richard Curtis film.
Speaker C:Who AKA Love, actually.
Speaker C:Writer of Notting Hill.
Speaker C:Following the funeral.
Speaker C:Very Black Adder.
Speaker C:Blackadder.
Speaker C:Vicar Dibley.
Speaker C:Was that Richard Curtis?
Speaker C:I think it was, yeah.
Speaker C:I think it was, yep.
Speaker C:So this is called About Time.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:And it's got Dom.
Speaker C:I'm gonna say his name wrong.
Speaker C:Dom Hill.
Speaker C:Dom Gleason.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And Rachel McAdams.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I'm thankful for everything we've been through recently.
Speaker B:I'm thankful for.
Speaker B:For a rom com.
Speaker B:I really hope I like it.
Speaker C:It's on.
Speaker A:It's also got time travel in it.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah.
Speaker C:Did I not mention that bit?
Speaker B:I think I already knew that.
Speaker B:I knew things about this.
Speaker A:Whenever we talk about sci Fi, I always bring this up because, you guys, it's time.
Speaker A:Travis.
Speaker A:Sci fi.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:No, it isn't.
Speaker A:Because about time isn't.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker C:And there's a scene in it in particular that we often reference that's really, really good about just life in general.
Speaker C:So I haven't watched it for a while.
Speaker C:I am excited to watch.
Speaker B:Where is it available?
Speaker C:It's on Prime.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Good question.
Speaker C:Don't know.
Speaker C:2000, I reckon 12?
Speaker C:Yeah, that's probably a good call.
Speaker B:2013.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Earning the big box.
Speaker A:The size of the table.
Speaker C:Close.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:Thank you very much, guys.
Speaker B:That brings us to the end of the show.
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Speaker B:Spread the word.
Speaker B:And we greatly appreciate it.
Speaker B:This episode is officially over.
Speaker B:This is Mark saying goodbye.
Speaker A:This is down saying goodbye for now.
Speaker C:Dogs, more like.
Speaker A:Oh, that was a cool line.
Speaker A:I like that one.
Speaker B:There were some good gods in this.
