Waiting(2005) - Could this be made today?
This week, Marc, Darren and Paul crack open Waiting, the cult workplace comedy set over the course of a single shift in a busy restaurant.
PART 1 – The Nutshell – If you haven’t seen it
A spoiler-free breakdown designed to help you decide if this comedy is your kind of film and worth your time.
The lads discuss what made Waiting such a cult favorite, whether its unique brand of humour still lands today and if this restaurant comedy deserves a place on your watch-list.
By the end of Part 1, you will have made a decision!
PART 2 – The Unboxing – If you’ve seen it
What Did You Miss?
The things you missed, the details you didn't notice, and the hidden layers behind the film.
The lads unpack the details hidden throughout the movie, discuss the moments that are easy to overlook and explore some of the ideas beneath the comedy that make Waiting... more than it first appears.
Paul's Facts of the Day
- The real-life inspiration behind the story
- Casting stories and career-defining performances
- Hidden production details and improvisation
- References and callbacks throughout the film
- Fascinating facts from behind the scenes
Hate It or Rate It?
Marc, Darren & Paul submit their scores and Waiting... takes its place in the Legend League.
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Everyone should be deeply, deeply embarrassed about being involved in this.
Speaker A:And I'm amazed any of them have recovered and had a career.
Speaker B:I'm putting that right at the beginning.
Speaker A:I don't remember that.
Speaker A:But I don't know if it's I was having a stroke or if I turned it off the minute the credits rolled.
Speaker B:Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Marc Farquhar, myself, Darren.
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Speaker C:And we help you get more from the movies you have seen with things you missed and details you probably didn't know us.
Speaker B:Plus there's movie facts, trivia and behind the scenes stories.
Speaker C:There's also your chance to choose the movie.
Speaker B:So grab some popcorn and let's crack open this week's movie.
Speaker B: re we are once again, waiting: Speaker B:So this is the nutshell where we will break the movie down spoiler free to help you decide if it's your kind of movie and if it's worth your time.
Speaker B:So before we start, this is the first episode of July, which means the July listener choice is open.
Speaker B:If you would like us to break a movie down, crack a movie open, send it in and we'll add it to the wheel and it will get chosen at random.
Speaker A:A good movie.
Speaker C:You got to lose that cough there.
Speaker C:That's really specific cough.
Speaker B:Weird how it came in just now.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So yeah, send them in.
Speaker B:You can email us hello Movies in a Nutshell dot com.
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Speaker B:There's a little box you can type it in and we'll add it to the random wheel and it may or may not get chosen.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's move on to the nutshell of waiting in a Nutshell.
Speaker B:What is this movie about?
Speaker A:Who chose it was yours was my choice.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker A:There's a lot of movies that we've spoken about before on the show like Empire Records, a classic.
Speaker A:There's an episode of that.
Speaker A:You can go back and watch it.
Speaker A:We've probably spoken about Office Space quite a bit.
Speaker B:I've never seen it.
Speaker C:Yeah, we talk about it a lot.
Speaker A:Probably mentioned Clerks quite a bit.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Vehicle.
Speaker A:It's basically those movies but in a kind of weather spoonsy type restaurant.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But I would say with a Sprinkling of American pie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes, That's.
Speaker A:That's a good one.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It's very inner workings of a bar.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's like a restaurant the other day and it's a bar during the night.
Speaker A:It's like always sunny in Philadelphia.
Speaker A:But they serve more food.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or they actually serve people.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker C:I don't think they've ever served anyone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they go into the place they work instead of just going off on adventures.
Speaker B:So it follows someone's first day.
Speaker B:And it's got all the different departments.
Speaker B:You've got the front of house, you've got the back of house, you've got the kitchen, you've got the bar staff, you've got the bus boys who do all the cleaning.
Speaker B:It's about all that sort of meshes together and the difference between each of the department and you see the whole thing through someone's new eyes on their first start.
Speaker A:That's a nice device because that's kind of like allows us to see this world through fresh eyes, which is always objectively.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's kind of like when you have that character that is there to explain to the audience what's going on.
Speaker A:But they're not quite doing that.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Not in a rage.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:But you're meeting the characters as they're meeting the characters.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But then they're explaining to the new kid what's going on.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like the games that they play.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which we won't spoil in this section.
Speaker C:Let's just say some of the games are.
Speaker C:Again, why I thought of American Pie.
Speaker C:It's that kind of human, over the.
Speaker B:Top kind of stuff.
Speaker C:Over the top.
Speaker B:And it goes through the classic.
Speaker B:I mean, you've got rude customers, you've got absolute chaos in the kitchen.
Speaker B:Questionable management, which is a common theme.
Speaker B:It touches on all the stereotypes that you get within that kind of working environment.
Speaker B:Enough immature behavior to get everyone fired.
Speaker B:Usual stuff.
Speaker C:And it's very much the Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker C:It almost feels like the Ryan Reynolds demo reel where he's figuring out how to be Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I looked it up and Van Wilder, which I haven't seen, but I imagine this is in the same vein as Van Wilder Party Layers and whatever it's called, which was kind of one of his big breakouts, wasn't it?
Speaker C:And this is very much again, that Ryan Reynolds deadpan.
Speaker C:What would you call it?
Speaker C:Snack.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a good word.
Speaker A:And it's a whole bunch.
Speaker A:It's an Ensemble cast with loads of people from those types of comedies, like Anna Faris, who's most famous scary movie.
Speaker A:Scary movies.
Speaker A:You've got Justin Long, who rocks up in a lot of those types of movies.
Speaker C:Yeah, I like Justin Long.
Speaker A:And you've got, I'm not sure, Louise Guzman.
Speaker B:For anyone who's worked in food and beverage and hospitality, this is a very relatable movie.
Speaker B:There's always aspects of this.
Speaker B:You'll go, oh, yes, that's very on the nose.
Speaker C:Lots of references, especially the customer stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:All the different archetypes of customers.
Speaker B:You get the good and the bad and the ugly.
Speaker C:Have we all worked in retail at some point?
Speaker A:Retail, bars, cafes, theater.
Speaker A:Yeah, theater, darling.
Speaker C:Theater, darling.
Speaker C:High class here.
Speaker A:Cinema, of course.
Speaker C:Oh, the cinema.
Speaker A:Also being a bailiff.
Speaker C:Have you.
Speaker A:Yeah, not.
Speaker A:Didn't last long.
Speaker C:There's a bonus episode.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:I was also a dustman for a while.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I've had an eclectic life.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:There's the special spin off.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker C:The Life of Darren.
Speaker B:What kind of watches this?
Speaker A:Darren, what kind of watch?
Speaker A:This is probably kind of a Friday night popcorn, a beer movie.
Speaker A:You can watch it with your friends.
Speaker A:I think it'd be fun to watch if you've got some, like, female friends, because I think they'll be grossed out quite a bit by what the guys get up to.
Speaker A:And that's always fun to see.
Speaker A:The squirming.
Speaker B:For Meats, I had Empire Records, meet Superbad.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:That's fair.
Speaker C:I see that.
Speaker C:There's a lot of other films that popped in my head because I have watched a lot of these sort of films, being the adult that I am, but stuff like Old School with Will Ferrell, anchorman.
Speaker C:There's probably touches of that in there.
Speaker A:Freddy Got Fingered.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Not seen it, but I imagine that's exactly what it's like.
Speaker C:What's the other one?
Speaker C:Oh, there's one that I like called Girl Next Door, which is where a port star, eliza Cuthbert from 24.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Great show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Emil Hirsch is in that and Paul Dano in an early role.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker C:So Girl Next Door.
Speaker C:There's quite a few of these sort of.
Speaker C:I like to think of them as frat movies.
Speaker C:And there was one with Justin Long that I watched not so long ago called Accepted and that was a bit like this where he had to pretend he was in uni, so he made one up.
Speaker C:And so, yeah, them sort of frat comedies.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Maybe even.
Speaker C:What's it called?
Speaker C:Animal House.
Speaker C:Animal House.
Speaker A:The jumbo.
Speaker A:More nudity.
Speaker A:I would have thought, yeah, yeah, there was nudity in this, but not the Animal House type of nudity.
Speaker A:Yeah, not the celebration of nudity.
Speaker A:It's more of a nudity of the grossness.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker C:There's a nutshell.
Speaker C:The nudity of the grossness.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker B:That takes us on to the unboxing.
Speaker B:Spoiler territory ahead.
Speaker B:If you haven't seen the movie and we've helped you decide you do want to go watch it, we recommend you go do so now before you come back, because from this point forward, there will be spoilers in the unboxing.
Speaker B:We have.
Speaker B:What did you miss?
Speaker B:Where we reveal things you may have missed even if you've seen the movie many times.
Speaker B:Paul has his facts of the day.
Speaker B:And we end with Hate it or Hate it, where we each give a brief, brief opinion score out of 10.
Speaker B:And we see where it lands on our Legend League.
Speaker B:I'll do what you said before we started recording.
Speaker B:Darren, what did you miss?
Speaker B:What might the listeners might have missed?
Speaker A:Well, much like Philosopasta, there's not much going on under the surface of this movie, but one thing I did notice is I'm not sure if you would class it, like, as a homage or whether it was just flat out ripping it off, but it felt like they had two characters in this word which were a direct ripoff of Jay and Silent Bob.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:You know the ones I mean?
Speaker A:Yes, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:They're called T, Dog and Nick.
Speaker C:You mean the Jay and Silent Bob ripoffs that were in this film.
Speaker B:The Busboys.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Except Silent Bob talks.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So Jay and Silent Bob, for context,.
Speaker B:If anyone doesn't know who they are.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So Jay and Silent Bob.
Speaker A:Silent Bob is played by Kevin Smith, who made a movie called clerks on, like, $16,000 shot on 16 miles, black and white.
Speaker A:And it was based in, like, a quick shop.
Speaker A:Is that what it was called?
Speaker C:I think so.
Speaker A:Like, a spa that he worked in and he just shot in the evenings.
Speaker A:And then it took it to Cannes and it got Cannes Film Festivals, also a market, and it sold.
Speaker A:And that he leveraged that to get his second movie, which is more at.
Speaker A:Anyway, so Jay and.
Speaker A:So Kevin Smith is Silent Bob.
Speaker A:And then Jason Muse.
Speaker A:Jason Muse plays Jay.
Speaker B:And we could also.
Speaker B:We could also.
Speaker B:We'll put a link.
Speaker B:Yeah, find us a link.
Speaker B:I'll put in the show notes so they can click on it and it'll show.
Speaker C:Yeah, you're basically your two stoner guys.
Speaker C:Like, hey, hey, Bob.
Speaker C:And then Bob just nods along and.
Speaker A:So, yeah, Jay and Silent Bob were in Clerks.
Speaker A:They then were in Morewatch, which was like the fully funded movie, which he then got after that.
Speaker A:Then I think they did no Chaser Namey, surely.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think they were in that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Then they did Dogma, which they were in.
Speaker A:Then eventually they got their own spin off movie called Jane.
Speaker A:Silent Bob Strike Back.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's an animated show with Jay and the Silent Bob and a comic series and a computer game.
Speaker A:That's who these people remind me of.
Speaker B:When was Jay and Silent Bob?
Speaker B: Was it pre: Speaker A:Oh, clerks would be 90s, weren't it?
Speaker C:Yeah, late 90s.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Like mid to late 90s.
Speaker C:So, yeah, that's clearly what they were going for.
Speaker A:I will dig out a really funny clip of those guys.
Speaker A:It's very childish, though.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think I found they sell dope.
Speaker C:They just sell dope.
Speaker C:I think I found the deeper meaning on this film, though.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:You know, like sometimes you say, I wonder if the title means two things.
Speaker C:Like you're saying with Disclosure Day the other week.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:What if it's like waiting to come into their own.
Speaker A:Waiting to hit puberty.
Speaker A:You mean waiting to grow up?
Speaker C:Kinda, yeah.
Speaker C:Because Justin Long's character, he.
Speaker C:He goes through a journey, doesn't he?
Speaker C:Where eventually he spoilers on.
Speaker C:He jacks in the job.
Speaker A:What's that saying?
Speaker A:Where if you haven't.
Speaker A:If what is the saying?
Speaker A:It's like you've got to be idealistic in your 20s, but if you haven't sold out by your 30s, you're an idiot or something like that.
Speaker A:Oh, that's saying.
Speaker A:And they're at that period where they're kind of anti establishment, just making money to get by, but they don't really commit.
Speaker A:And then by the time you hit 30, you're supposed to sell out and just make money and pay your bills and pay your taxes and stop rebelling, you know?
Speaker A:And then when you hit your 50s and 60s, you start rebelling again.
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker C:Is that what's happening with you?
Speaker A:Well, I've got a year to go and.
Speaker A:But I am getting sick and tired of this.
Speaker A:He is Murtaugh.
Speaker C:He is.
Speaker C:He is now Roger Murtaugh.
Speaker B:I see what you mean, though.
Speaker B:But the waiting is obviously it's waiting on.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Which is like the.
Speaker B:That's the job dealing with customers in a restaurant.
Speaker B:But also I think a lot of them are just waiting to sort of figure out what.
Speaker C:That's what I Thought like, is it meant to be that what am I.
Speaker B:Wait, what am I waiting for?
Speaker B:Yeah, what do I jack this job in?
Speaker B:Do I go in because he gets a job offer at some point?
Speaker C:Well, there's that scene.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's what I was going to say, where it feels like that's going to be the breakthrough moment.
Speaker C:And if it was a non daft film, obviously this is a comedy and stuff.
Speaker C:Did we even say that?
Speaker C:In the nutshells, I think they got the hang of it.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's a comedy.
Speaker C:So there's this scene though, where the guy's like, you're really good and he's waiting on him and yeah, you, you know your stuff.
Speaker C:And it builds it up to make you think, oh, is this businessman's gonna take him on and this is his escape and that's gonna be the final scene.
Speaker C:Him at this accountancy firm or something.
Speaker B:And it wasn't, it was just.
Speaker B:It was just another restaurant, slightly larger chain.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a steakhouse.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He rips up the card and you're like, oh, okay.
Speaker B:So he got offered that and he also got offered a promotion.
Speaker C:That's true.
Speaker A:My niece once got a job like that and she was selling suits in a suit store.
Speaker A:Oddly enough, that's how to say a guy said, she's there.
Speaker A:Anything else I can do for you?
Speaker A:She's like, he's like, yeah, you can learn how to drive and you can be down at this address in London and you're going to come work for me and you're going to sell super yachts to the super rich.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Is that what she did?
Speaker A:I have no clue.
Speaker A:So don't really keep in contact with my family.
Speaker A:But yeah, she took, she took the job and she learned how to drive in like two months.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I haven't really seen that side of my family for a while since I moved up north and become excommunicated.
Speaker B:That's the spirit.
Speaker B:Welcome to Degabar.
Speaker C:Yeah, the north of.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I think there could be something in that, like the dual meaning, why it's called that.
Speaker B:Also, there's parts of it that teach you about how to treat different people, how to, you know, taking people on face value or being shallow and just, I don't know, the different kinds of characters.
Speaker B:Not taking people for granted and don't with people who serve you food.
Speaker C:Never with people who serve you food.
Speaker C:I don't think I'm going to restaurant ever again after this.
Speaker C:Even though I'm nice to them.
Speaker C:Them.
Speaker C:It's like, whoa.
Speaker A:There's a variation of that a guy called Chris Boss says, who's like an FBI ex.
Speaker A:FBI negotiator.
Speaker A:And he says, don't annoy people who can make your life harder by doing nothing.
Speaker A:Which is why it confuses me when people yell up to like a call.
Speaker B:Center and yell as if it's their fault.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they can do nothing and your case doesn't go further.
Speaker A:But if you're charming and just like, hey, you know, I know this isn't your fault.
Speaker A:They But I see what I can do for you.
Speaker A:And you can like, it'll get solved.
Speaker A:Don't be a dick.
Speaker C:Don't be a dick.
Speaker C:That is the lesson.
Speaker C:Isn't that the lesson we came up with in the last film?
Speaker C:In most films we come up with, the lesson in this film should be don't be a dick.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because there's lessons about how to treat people, how not to treat people.
Speaker B:That's fairly evident, isn't it?
Speaker B:What can backfire.
Speaker C:And yes.
Speaker B:And like the tips.
Speaker B:There was two variations of the giving a really small tip.
Speaker B:I give this back.
Speaker B:You need this clearly needs more than I do.
Speaker B:And then the vice versa.
Speaker A:Gave a massive tip tipping culture in America confused.
Speaker A:I see so much like anger on social media and it keep.
Speaker A:The numbers keep going up.
Speaker A:Like I feel like it should be 10%, but people are like, no, you do this sum, then you do this and you move to decimal point and you times it by four.
Speaker B:But also seems like America, it's like it's built in.
Speaker B:You do tip.
Speaker B:Whereas in this country and thinking more in Europe, like, we tip if we get good service.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:It's called a tip for that's what.
Speaker A:It's still never sure who we tip.
Speaker A:Like sometimes I feel bad I don't tip my hairdresser.
Speaker A:But I used to tip.
Speaker B:With the prices they charge, you don't need to tip them.
Speaker A:I used to tip my Turkish barber.
Speaker A:I don't know if that's a cultural thing.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Well, say it was a bargain.
Speaker B:So if you go for it for a meal and some like the.
Speaker B:The people after you're amazing and give you extra service and then definitely that's probably the main place you do tip.
Speaker C:I suppose in America especially, isn't it there's that culture of have a nice day and the extra will go the extra mile for you.
Speaker C:Whereas in England sometimes you don't tend to get that there's your food.
Speaker B:Well, I like not always, but what I Like, what this movie did is the clear depiction between the day route service and the night service, because it.
Speaker B:It was quite slow in the day.
Speaker B:And, you know those drips and drabs.
Speaker B:And then it's sort of ended and they're like, this music kicked in.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, let's all prepare for battle kind of thing.
Speaker B:It was War Cry.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker B:And it was just like a total different.
Speaker B:Like a different job.
Speaker C:The montage kicks in, doesn't it?
Speaker B:Yeah, I like how they did that.
Speaker B:And you know that for anyone who, like, wasn't familiar with that kind of industry, that gives it.
Speaker B:That gives a good indication of what it's like.
Speaker C:And you've also got the different characters, a bit like Empire Records.
Speaker C:And you see all these different characters.
Speaker C:There's the.
Speaker C:The one who's losing her mind and so angry at the world.
Speaker C:But then she'll.
Speaker B:Everybody's got one of them.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:But then she comes around the corner, she's like, it's everything okay?
Speaker C:And then she goes in the kitchen.
Speaker C:She's like.
Speaker C:It's like, yeah.
Speaker C:How many of us have even had that kind of day?
Speaker B:Those foreigners.
Speaker B:They fucking know.
Speaker B:They know.
Speaker C:And they're all speaking in French.
Speaker C:Like, dude, I know we can speak English.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I read that this film did develop a cult following in that sort of industry because it.
Speaker B:Of its accuracy, particularly at the time as well.
Speaker C:See, I imagine it would appeal to Kevin Smith, sort of film fans, this sort of thing, because it does have a lot of that just chatting about daily life or, you know, the two guys getting whacked off the brains and having hallucinations and that kind of thing.
Speaker B:I think the waiting thing is people are always resting, wrestling with the question of whether they're.
Speaker B:Are they building anything or they are they just simply drifting.
Speaker B:It's like, what are they waiting for?
Speaker C:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker B:I think that's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's the crux of it.
Speaker B:Although it's covered over by a lot of chaos.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah, we don't.
Speaker A:We don't start living our dreams because we're of imposter syndrome or we're scared or.
Speaker A:What if it doesn't work and we just keep waiting?
Speaker B:Oh, a lot of these are stuck.
Speaker B:They feel stuck.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Unless you're the manager, in which case you're the butt of all the jokes again.
Speaker C:And not the.
Speaker C:But all the jokes.
Speaker C:Because they don't help themselves in a lot of these films either.
Speaker C:They do the.
Speaker C:It's the guy from Anchorman that's probably what made me think of anchorman.
Speaker C:And he plays the manager.
Speaker C:He's in the office as well actually, isn't he?
Speaker C:I think he plays like the, the guy on the road.
Speaker A:Also a pedophile.
Speaker A:Is he in the film?
Speaker C:Oh, in the film, sorry.
Speaker C:But in real life I'm like, I did not know that about that.
Speaker A:He's trying to sleep with the 16 year old girl.
Speaker A:17 Year old girl.
Speaker C:They're all trying to sleep with the 16 year old.
Speaker A:America is the age of consent 18?
Speaker B:I have no idea.
Speaker A:I think it is 18 in America.
Speaker A:16 In this country.
Speaker C:Ryan Reynolds waiting for a week.
Speaker C:When's he waiting for the 18th?
Speaker A:No, he wasn't going to wait.
Speaker A:This is basically about how Ryan Reynolds wants to have sex with a child or rape a child and then waiting for 18th birthday and then learns that that's bad and so decides to wait.
Speaker C:And that's what the waiting in the title is all about.
Speaker B:That's one of the multiple meanings.
Speaker C:We've digged in the nutshell and we found the deeper meaning.
Speaker B:What else?
Speaker B:The whole film revolves around one single shift.
Speaker C:Yes, very much so.
Speaker C:It's kind of a day in the life of.
Speaker C:Because it's the day in the life of this new guy, isn't it?
Speaker C:And we're seeing.
Speaker B:Well, the structure sort of helps create the feeling that this isn't a special day.
Speaker B:It's just another day in the cycle that will just repeat forever over and over again.
Speaker C:Well, it starts with the house party, doesn't it?
Speaker C:And you're like, I don't get how that fits in until it gets to the end of the film where it's the house party.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, I see.
Speaker C:So every day they just get wasted and have a house party.
Speaker B:Starts at the climax, it goes back down to the beginning.
Speaker B:No one can be bothered, do any work.
Speaker C:Yeah, they're all hungover again.
Speaker C:Which, you know, I can't share in that experience before, but I'm guessing you guys might have had that at some point.
Speaker A:I've had the occasional hangover in my life.
Speaker B:Obviously this is films packed with jokes, but one of the surprising relatable questions is at what point does a temporary job not become, is not temporary anymore?
Speaker B:Because a lot of them all start like that.
Speaker B:I'll just do it for a while and I'll see what happens.
Speaker A:We see that a lot when students will take a gap year.
Speaker A:They'll be like, oh, I want to go to uni, but I think I'll take a Year out.
Speaker A:And like you're going to get a temporary job and then you're going to be around people who are in that temporary job and they're trapped in that.
Speaker B:And you start spending money and you're not going to be savings.
Speaker A:You're going to get caught.
Speaker C:And do you really want to end up like Dan?
Speaker C:I'm looking at some of the quotes I wrote down.
Speaker C:Don't fuck with people on your phone.
Speaker C:I want a hot pink center.
Speaker C:Don't we all?
Speaker B:Thank you very much, gentlemen.
Speaker B:That takes us perfectly into Paul's fantastic facts of the day.
Speaker A:Hit me, Paul.
Speaker B:Hit me, Paul.
Speaker B:I'm sure there'll be some for this.
Speaker C:There is a May you need to jingle, but we got a few.
Speaker C:The shenanigans with the Z restaurant was actually a converted Benny Ganz.
Speaker C:Benny Gans.
Speaker B:Bennigan's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Bennigan's restaurant.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It has since been completely renovated.
Speaker C: And in: Speaker C:It was a wireless retail.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:It's really small.
Speaker B:You couldn't.
Speaker B:You could zoom it in a bit.
Speaker C:I could zoom it in.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker C:I can't.
Speaker B:You're in your 40s, you know, I'm very tired.
Speaker A:Do you mean to say they didn't keep the set there as an icon and a shrine to this movie masterpiece?
Speaker A:That people could go on a location hunt?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And just worship.
Speaker A:I knew you of it.
Speaker C:I knew you would be gutted about that because that's the.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:It's not there anymore.
Speaker C:Well, it's a wireless retail store.
Speaker C:It's been done out.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Sorry about that.
Speaker C:The foreign guests at the bar speak German with an Austrian accent.
Speaker C:And the guys say, did you see the blonde girl?
Speaker C:That's unbelievable.
Speaker C:Her breasts are incredible.
Speaker B:See whether subtitles on on Netflix or wherever you're watching it should come up.
Speaker C:I guess so.
Speaker C:But we're really on these hardcore facts today.
Speaker C:These are deep facts.
Speaker B:Deep cuts.
Speaker C:Dane Cook improvised all his character dialogue and name.
Speaker B:Which one's Dane Cook?
Speaker A:He was the main cook.
Speaker B:The black guy.
Speaker A:He's the one who gets called out at the end being like, you're the worst.
Speaker A:He's like, what the fuck did I do?
Speaker B:Oh, him.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You have like tattoos and stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:There was no script given his total screen time of about three minutes.
Speaker C:And it was kind of a cameo more than anything in an original incarnation of the script.
Speaker C:Calvin was the character who couldn't piss and Brian was the character who Couldn't get the girl and the parts were combined at the last minute.
Speaker B:I think that works better.
Speaker B:Give one character a bit more.
Speaker B:A few more dimensions.
Speaker B:Yeah, thinned out a bit too much.
Speaker C:All the dimensions there.
Speaker B:You're too fucking nice.
Speaker B:Sound familiar, Paul?
Speaker C:I did see some reflections in those scenes, to be honest.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, well, you know, don't want to spoil us.
Speaker C:Good friendship, like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did you make a move?
Speaker B:Did you get.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Maybe that character was based on me.
Speaker C:The character was based on Paul.
Speaker C:Oh, this is.
Speaker C:Before writing the script, writer and director Rob McKittrick worked at a Roadhouse Grill restaurant in Orlando.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:I was gonna say, hmm, I wonder where they got the idea from.
Speaker C:And he worked there for three years, and he incorporated the types of employees he worked with and the types of customers he encountered, which you would expect, which is kind of like.
Speaker B:In that respect, he did a good job because people.
Speaker B:Lots of people said they're related to that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it's kind of Ricky Gervais in the Office.
Speaker B:And another very Southern, obviously, at cinema, it was nothing.
Speaker B:But the DVDs in the rental market.
Speaker B:It did quite well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just Cult.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's got Cult working all over it, hasn't it?
Speaker C:Paris Hilton and Molly Sims were both offered the role of Danielle and Referee Fused.
Speaker C:And at the last minute, Jordan Ladd was hired.
Speaker C:Adam Carolla and Jason Biggs, American Pie were considered for the role of Chef Floyd, the role in which Dane Cook was ultimately cast.
Speaker C:So that might.
Speaker B:Oh, Eddie Corolla.
Speaker B:He's a comedian.
Speaker B:He is a chef as well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So that might have been a bit of stunt casting for that particular cameo, I suppose.
Speaker C:After the film was a modest box office hit.
Speaker C:Oh, modest box.
Speaker C:And did extremely well in DVD sales and rentals, Lingate's film approached director and writer to develop the movie into a TV series.
Speaker C:McKittrick wrote the script for a pilot which Lionsgate and Comedy Central purchased.
Speaker C:However, the pilot was never filmed and the TV series never materialized.
Speaker C:I bet you're gutted about that, Darren.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:TV series could have been.
Speaker B:Could have, could have worked.
Speaker B:Yeah, it could have worked better than cramming things into 90 minutes.
Speaker C:That's true.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like you said, this is just one.
Speaker B:Day because you can have character development and a bit more meat on the bone.
Speaker A:I know where Sunny works.
Speaker A:Office works.
Speaker C:It could be done as an April Fool's Day joke.
Speaker C:Director Rob McKittrick and actor Lewis Guzman staged a diva fight on set during the filming of the scene where Rob Benedict's character, Calvin, imagines his cowork, his co workers cheering him on at the urinal.
Speaker C:How do you say it?
Speaker C:Guzman.
Speaker C:Guzman.
Speaker C:Guzman.
Speaker C:Lewis Guzman.
Speaker A:I say Guzman.
Speaker C:He pretended to.
Speaker C:He pretended to ditch a line from the script in favor of his own line.
Speaker C:And the fight was so realistic that the other actors on set became very uncomfortable and quiet when Guzman stormed out.
Speaker C:So there was a whole lot of fun behind the scenes going on.
Speaker C:And one more, because I know what you listeners really want here.
Speaker C:You want the.
Speaker C:The filth.
Speaker C:So as far as the unrated cut goes, the unrated portions mostly concern the testicles and vagina shots near the end of the movie.
Speaker C:That had to be changed for the mpaa, which I'm guessing is the.
Speaker A:Is the BBFC of America.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Like the Motion Picture Association.
Speaker C:That's them.
Speaker B:That did make me laugh.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, for the vagina shot, the camera is slightly closer than it was theatrically.
Speaker C:For the testicles shot in the theatrical, they were just hanging out of the boxes.
Speaker C:This take is used on disk 2 during the works at the beginning of the Lewis Guzman casting section.
Speaker C:Another unrated change is that the rap video during the credits is uncensored while the theatrical had words bleeped very arbitrarily.
Speaker A:I also heard that the actress didn't want to do that shot, so they went across the road to a strip joint and got a stripper to do that scene.
Speaker C:To do that scene.
Speaker B:So the midriff would be someone else.
Speaker B:You didn't get the fact.
Speaker B:Why is it called Shenanigans somewhere else and waiting here.
Speaker C:I did look up that.
Speaker C:You know, when you go on IMDb to other titles.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:There's a big list of other titles, different languages and stuff, but nowhere did they call it Shenanigans.
Speaker C:Which surprised me because I did look especially for you on that one.
Speaker C:But everywhere I'm wrong on that, it said that it was just called Wayne.
Speaker B:Okay, maybe I got that wrong.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:There was a version of it somewhere else called Shenanigans.
Speaker C:Unless that was a different course.
Speaker C:I mean, but yeah, apparently.
Speaker C:Okay, it wasn't ever.
Speaker C:Because sometimes it says on the title,.
Speaker B:If anyone listens to this.
Speaker B:No, let me know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or maybe it's one of them things.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Am I right?
Speaker B:Wrong.
Speaker C:You maybe imagined and didn't happen.
Speaker B:Maybe.
Speaker C:And all the Internet hasn't reported it.
Speaker C:Who knows?
Speaker B:They will now.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Investigate immediately.
Speaker B:Okay, thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker B:That takes us into hate it or rate it.
Speaker B:So it's my choice, so I'll go first.
Speaker B:I thought this was.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B: My friend had this on DVD in: Speaker B:And we were all, what, in our 20s, so like, similar age.
Speaker C:I was gonna say this is perfect.
Speaker B:My friend did work in a restaurant, so that's probably why he gravitated towards it.
Speaker B:We watched it many times, but doesn't.
Speaker B:Obviously I'm in my 40s now, so it's not.
Speaker B:A lot of the humor doesn't land.
Speaker C:You still got the nostalgia, though, a little bit.
Speaker B:There were some parts I like.
Speaker B:Yeah, that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I still.
Speaker B:That's makes me laugh.
Speaker B:I like the chemistry between some of the characters.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I found it interesting.
Speaker B:I wasn't.
Speaker B:I wasn't bored, but the humor was.
Speaker B:Obviously, it's different now.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Very immature, very juvenile.
Speaker B:Slow at times.
Speaker B:I've worked out 17 years ago when I first watched this film, so that was a long time ago.
Speaker B:It was well choreographed.
Speaker B:The Day and the Night I liked.
Speaker B:I liked all the production side of that.
Speaker B:And that must have taken some.
Speaker B:Some planning.
Speaker B:Stereotypical capture of the customers was good.
Speaker B:The actors there, that's.
Speaker B:Obviously they're overacting the.
Speaker C:Especially that one who was after the stake or whatever.
Speaker C:You just wanted to smash the screen up with her, which was the intention, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:It's a good insight into the industry from, like grassroots, the ground level, where you would start at somewhere like that.
Speaker B:But overall it's.
Speaker B:It's a bit meh.
Speaker B:A bit middle of the road.
Speaker B:So I'm just going to give it a five because it was.
Speaker B:It was okay.
Speaker B:I liked going down memory lane, like aspect of it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That long is it since you watched last watched it?
Speaker B:Probably 15 years.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:So for a couple of years.
Speaker B:We watched it quite a long time and I've not seen it again since.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it was meh.
Speaker B:Okay, so I'll give it.
Speaker B:I'll give it a five over to you, Paul.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I do like a good frat comedy, probably because it's stuff I wouldn't have done.
Speaker C:Like, oh, look at all these crazy people.
Speaker C:I'll have been around it, but not been the crazy one jumping off the roof or whatever.
Speaker B:You'd have been home in bed.
Speaker C:Well, even if I was at the party, I'm not going to be the one jumping off the roof.
Speaker C:I'd have been the one in the corner going like, oh, God, are they going to jump off the roof?
Speaker C:I don't know why I picked that as an example, but hey.
Speaker C:So it Started off and I was struggling to be fair.
Speaker C:The dick game joke seemed to just keep going.
Speaker C:I understand that became part of the plot later on, so it gave it a bit of weight, I suppose.
Speaker C:But at the start I was just like, is this gonna be the whole film?
Speaker C:Just this dick game?
Speaker C:It was quite funny.
Speaker C:I like Ryan Reynolds in most of.
Speaker C:So it was quite fun seeing him in his earlier anchor, you know, incarnation, becoming Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker C:As it went along, I warmed to it more, I do confess, warm to it more as it went along.
Speaker C:And I quite like some of the.
Speaker C:The touches around where they did, like the card bit where he ripped up the card because it was another burger joint.
Speaker C:I was like, oh, that lured me in and kind of flipped me over.
Speaker C:That was quite fun.
Speaker C:There was other bits where the guy at the end where he just, like, who he hasn't let speak all day.
Speaker B:The new guy.
Speaker C:The new guy when he think I'm like, okay, that's quite cool.
Speaker C:And then obviously Dragon back in.
Speaker C:So there's certain bits of it I thought were good.
Speaker C:I didn't get to know a lot of the.
Speaker C:Like, Anna Faris is there, but you don't really get to know much about her character.
Speaker C:It's just, oh, it's Anna Faris.
Speaker C:Oh, she's not really in it that much.
Speaker C:Lewis, I thought, was quite good.
Speaker C:My favorite character.
Speaker B:Foist.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Bishop, the chef guy.
Speaker B:Foist, yeah, him.
Speaker C:He was my favorite.
Speaker C:I like the way he came in, the kind of wise counselor.
Speaker C:That was fun.
Speaker C:There's some fun lines.
Speaker C:But overall, I just kept thinking, I've seen this done better in other films.
Speaker C:That's where I kept coming to like, ah, it's okay.
Speaker C:But I've seen it done a lot better.
Speaker C:I can see why it's got cult status.
Speaker C:Oh, we're gonna give it what I'm gonna give it.
Speaker C:I think I'm gonna go the same as you.
Speaker C:Like, the Girl Next Door is a similar sort of humor and grossness and whatever, but it feels like it's got this heart to it somewhere.
Speaker C:And even stuff like old school, you know, that's got stuff about aging in it and it's all this kind of humor.
Speaker C:But then, I don't know, there's a bit of heart to it which I felt was missing a little bit from this.
Speaker C:I'm gonna go in the middle.
Speaker C:I'll say it was okay.
Speaker C:I do like a daft one, especially, you know, when you just want something on the background to wind out to or just something daft that they can't make today as well.
Speaker C:Sometimes that makes me laugh.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, they can't make this today.
Speaker C:Which I'm sure is gonna factor into Darren's thing.
Speaker C:Because there is stuff in this where you like, well, that's just wrong, isn't it?
Speaker C:And you're like, well, that's kind of the point.
Speaker C:But at the same time, it's of the time.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I'll go with semi.
Speaker C:I'll go five others go mid road.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker C:It was going to be lower, but like I say, there's some moments in it that I did think, oh, actually.
Speaker C:And I like the montage.
Speaker C:I almost thought the montage could have been sooner to pull me into it quicker.
Speaker C:But then I see what you're saying.
Speaker C:It was about the day shift in real life, so that was kind of cool.
Speaker C:But overall, yeah, it was okay.
Speaker B:Okay, over to the horn section.
Speaker A:This is a pubic hair covered, steaming pile of dog.
Speaker A:I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Speaker A:Like this.
Speaker C:You knew he was gonna say this.
Speaker A:About this whatsoever, like, and it just shows.
Speaker A:Ryan Reynolds hasn't grown as an actor.
Speaker A:Like, he's playing the same character, Deadpool, in a restaurant.
Speaker A:Grow up.
Speaker C:That's what I found interesting.
Speaker B:It's like, it's definitely a career of not growing up.
Speaker A:It's freaking annoying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't think it's a spice drinker.
Speaker A:It's not a product of its time.
Speaker A: It's: Speaker A: product of its time if it was: Speaker A:2005.
Speaker A:It's like they knew they were pushing it together.
Speaker C:They were pushing it.
Speaker A:And there are.
Speaker A: I mean,: Speaker A:I mean, it's hard because we have a global audience and we have a global fan base, as you know.
Speaker A:And so some of these words you really shouldn't be saying, like, they use the F kind of gay slur quite a lot, which is just like they use other words.
Speaker A:I actually quite like, but I wouldn't say on a podcast.
Speaker C:What were they, Darren?
Speaker C:Although that's Patreon stuff.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Lock that down.
Speaker C:Lock that down.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And other than that, I just thought it was like this idea that we're laughing at a grown guy trying to sleep with children.
Speaker A:It's so weird.
Speaker A:And there's a point where one of the guys says, I think Ryan Reynolds says, oh, can you ask your girlfriend?
Speaker A:Blah, blah.
Speaker A:And he's like, no, she doesn't like you.
Speaker A:She doesn't like grown men.
Speaker A:Having sex with 16 year old girls.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, that's, that's, that's a thing not to like.
Speaker B:You shouldn't admit.
Speaker B:I forgot about that whole angle with her at the front door.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, yeah, that's not good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then she, you know, he's trying to sneak up.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The more you think about it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The less you think about it, the better.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But then the manager's also then hitting on her.
Speaker B:That's even worse.
Speaker A:I'm like, there's too many characters as well.
Speaker A:You can't really get to know any of them.
Speaker A:Like, is Ryan Reynolds, what's his name?
Speaker A:Monty, Supposed to be the hero?
Speaker A:So we're rooting for the guy trying to sleep, which I keep.
Speaker A:See, it's.
Speaker A:It is technically rape.
Speaker A:Like, it's vape.
Speaker C:Like it was hard to root for any of them.
Speaker C:There is that.
Speaker A:Everyone is a twat in this movie.
Speaker A:Apart from maybe that girl who is a.
Speaker B:And the new guy, when he tells everyone who they really are.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's a run for his very life.
Speaker A:Then the filmmaking was shit.
Speaker A:It was like there'd be long shots, which you've talked about in another movie.
Speaker A:I can't remember which one, where there's a dialogue over the long shot.
Speaker A:And you think, okay, you're patching up the script.
Speaker A:You're like, quick, we need to add this information here over this long shot of them just walking so we can try and make some.
Speaker A:Make this make sense.
Speaker A:Then there's bits where it's so like we're.
Speaker A:We're sat in a triangle.
Speaker A:So if Mark's at the point, the camera will be by Paul and I.
Speaker A:Mark would be talking, but we would be in focus in this film.
Speaker A:Like, there'd be times when Raymond was talking.
Speaker A:He's not in focus, but the people in the foreground are in focus.
Speaker C:That's true.
Speaker A:That's basic filmmaking literacy.
Speaker A:Like, what the hell's going on?
Speaker C:I wasn't watching it closely on this film for some reason.
Speaker A:And then there would be little like jump cuts, as though they had.
Speaker A:They cut in the scene because they forgot their lines.
Speaker A:And it's not like you know how they do on.
Speaker A:Like I said, you don't do that.
Speaker A:That's not.
Speaker A:That's not good cinema literacy.
Speaker A:There's no visual storytelling.
Speaker A:It's just lots of talking nonsense using like childish words.
Speaker A:They're too old to be talking like this.
Speaker A:It's not the in between us.
Speaker A:And the in between us does it better like Jason between Us can do that better.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I.
Speaker A:It's nothing original, nothing creative, no signs of talent, and barely any signs of competence.
Speaker A:So I will be giving it, like,.
Speaker B:A 0.5 less than Velocipasta.
Speaker A:Well, velocipasta.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, this is a good defender.
Speaker A:Velocipasta knows no better.
Speaker A:That's like ignorant people just trying to do something.
Speaker A:This has got, like, actual actors in it, real people who should know better at this point.
Speaker A:And, like, the director actor didn't go on to do anything else other than another I no doubt shitty movie because John Davis gets a sex robot.
Speaker A:Oh, and he wrote Tag, which also looks.
Speaker C:Oh, I haven't seen that.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:That was his career over, like, and.
Speaker A:Yeah, of course they didn't get that TV show.
Speaker A:They're like, is this Rob guy attached?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:He will never see the light of day, for he cannot do it.
Speaker A:Let's play an April Fool's joke more working on the script.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker A:Go watch Empire Records, Office Space, Clerks, the In Betweeners, all this stuff is better.
Speaker C:Office Space is so good.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even, like, it's also got, like, Stifler in American Pie is a better version of.
Speaker C:Oh, agreed, agreed.
Speaker A:Ryan Reynolds character.
Speaker A:Everyone should be deeply, deeply embarrassed about being involved in this.
Speaker A:And I'm amazed any of them have recovered and had a career point that.
Speaker B:Right at the beginning.
Speaker A:And it was a sequel.
Speaker C:What's that?
Speaker A: Yeah,: Speaker A:It's called still Waiting.
Speaker B:I didn't know that.
Speaker C:Well, I've just found what movie I'm gonna recommend,.
Speaker B:Followed by Hot Shots, too.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, it's gonna be on a roll here.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's my thoughts.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker B:Do you know what?
Speaker C:You've said all that.
Speaker B:I'm really glad I picked that.
Speaker C:After all that, I'm like, you know what?
Speaker C:That's fair.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Normally, I'm a bit.
Speaker B:I cannot.
Speaker B:I cannot dispute anything you just said.
Speaker C:Normally, I'm like, what's wrong with you with this one?
Speaker C:I'm like, you know what?
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's fair.
Speaker A:I see that reading, but people may have a great time watching it.
Speaker A:I absolutely accept that.
Speaker A:I think if you can watch that, you've got a bucket of popcorn, you're drinking beer, you're throwing popcorn at your screen whilst yelling abuse at the characters.
Speaker A:Go for it.
Speaker A:Have a lovely time, but do not think this is a good film.
Speaker C:Good choice, Mark.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I kind of thought this would happen.
Speaker C:I did, too.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And to be honest, I needed kind of a light relief Film because I'd watched quite a lot of serious ones in the week.
Speaker C:So this kind of came in and I was like, oh, yeah, I kind of bumped it up thing just because I thought they were being creative in the end credits with the rap a bit as well.
Speaker C:You know, Jay and Silent Bob knockoff having some kind of weird rap thing.
Speaker A:I don't remember that.
Speaker A:But I don't know if it's because I was having a stroke or if I turned it off the minute the credits rolled.
Speaker C:Yeah, you did have to wait, like a couple of seconds.
Speaker C:So you may have been in the middle of season at that point.
Speaker B:Okay, that gives a total of 5.5.
Speaker B:That's not right.
Speaker B:That's not right.
Speaker B:That'S not right.
Speaker B:10.5.
Speaker C:I feel quite bad now because a lot of your points were so valid right now.
Speaker C:It's like I feel I've been far too easy on this film.
Speaker C:Never mind.
Speaker A:Yeah, you are being kind.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, so that gives a total of 10.5, which puts it in 74th out of 76.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker B:It's just ahead of Minecraft.
Speaker B:Minecraft Movie and Velocipasta.
Speaker B:Well, actually, it's not just ahead because Velocirapast has got 1.5 and Minecraft movie's got 5.
Speaker B:This has got 10.5.
Speaker B:It's just behind the net and the long walk.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker A:The net and the long walk are that low.
Speaker B:They're 11 point.
Speaker B:The net was 11.7, the long walk is 11.8, and the weighting is 10.5.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:Although it feels about right with Minecraft.
Speaker C:And the net was in focus.
Speaker C:That's under Bullock.
Speaker B:Okay, so that's what we thought.
Speaker B:That's where it landed in the Legend League.
Speaker B:We'd like to know what you thought of the movie.
Speaker B:Is Darren completely right?
Speaker B:I fear he is, but I fear.
Speaker C:He might be as well.
Speaker B:You might listen to this, might have a completely different opinion.
Speaker B:I would like to.
Speaker B:We'd like to hear those.
Speaker B:So send them in and we'll read them out on the show.
Speaker B:So we've mentioned some of them already.
Speaker B:Similar.
Speaker B:What if they've just listened to this episode?
Speaker B:What episodes in our back catalog might fit after this?
Speaker C:Well, if they enjoyed this rant from Darren, I would say Velocirapasta and Minecraft.
Speaker C:Yeah, they have similar rants.
Speaker A:Otherwise it's Empire Records.
Speaker B:Empire Records.
Speaker B:I would say a bit BlackBerry.
Speaker B:You know how they're.
Speaker B:Yeah, they're working the immature kind of side of it.
Speaker B:The team together.
Speaker C:Yeah, I see that.
Speaker C:I Don't think we've really done anything this sort of.
Speaker B:That's more like workplace culture kind of stuff.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I don't think we've delved into this sort of frat house comedy humor yet, have we?
Speaker C:Maybe Hot Shots is probably the closest.
Speaker B:Similar.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like just sort of daft.
Speaker C:Yeah, kind of.
Speaker B:So there we go.
Speaker B:That takes us on to part three, the listener lounge.
Speaker B:In the listen lounge, we have the lobby where we have your questions, your stories, any comments?
Speaker B:Then we ask our question of the week and we round off with next week's movie.
Speaker B:So we had a message from Alistair Scott, who was.
Speaker B:He's the listener choice for last month with A Man on Fire.
Speaker C:Oh, yes.
Speaker B:He said enjoy the podcast.
Speaker B:Totally agree about the length of Tony went a bit mad with his arty cutscenes.
Speaker B:I enjoy the ambiguity of the character and feel as though you can guess that he's ex military and accept that this is the case.
Speaker B:I appreciate you take talking it through the good insights.
Speaker C:Oh, thanks.
Speaker B:And then we had a message from friend of the show, Scott Wigglesworth.
Speaker B:He's messaged to say he definitely wants to join us at an upcoming cinema social.
Speaker A:Oh, sweet.
Speaker B:He's in Manchester, which is a couple hours away, but he's got family nearby.
Speaker C:Oh, brilliant.
Speaker B:So our next one is in September and then another one in December to round out the year.
Speaker C:Scott posts some hilarious stuff on Instagram.
Speaker C:Can I just say as well I.
Speaker B:Share some of his as us.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:He does some really good stuff.
Speaker B:Find some good gold.
Speaker C:I always feel like I've liked every single one of these stories about.
Speaker C:It's kind of like I'm stalking him.
Speaker C:It's like.
Speaker C:But they're too good not to like agree.
Speaker B:The the podcast this movie deserves better or TMDB podcast said always.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker C:That's all.
Speaker B:They just work.
Speaker C:I like the thoughts from these people because they're correct.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker B:And then Hannah Wood commented, yes, someone their handle was of.
Speaker B:Of random sunsets.
Speaker B:Maybe there is pros and cons.
Speaker B:So maybe that's all they said.
Speaker B:And then we did a poll.
Speaker B:I put a poll out and it was quite evident that people would go back to physical immediate because yes said 83% but I have to get off.
Speaker A:The sofa and put the physical media into the player.
Speaker C:It's good for you.
Speaker A:Go back to the sofa.
Speaker A:Yes, we invited remote control so we don't have to move.
Speaker B:And the Internet, you just press a button and it plays.
Speaker B:Yes, I get the convenience, but I'm not with music I still love a cd.
Speaker B:Like a physical.
Speaker B:Like reading the liner notes and the lyrics.
Speaker B:I know you can do it online, but that's just me.
Speaker A:Also, Paul and I are obviously single and alone, so you might have this mark.
Speaker A:But when I am in relationships, do you find that there is one of you who is the DVD put a winner.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:It's always me, it's always the guy.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:I don't trust anyone else to put touch your DVDs.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, put it in.
Speaker C:Where are we going with this?
Speaker C:Yeah, no, because I've.
Speaker C:Let's talk about DVD handling for a second here.
Speaker A:Yes, let's.
Speaker B:Okay, Mr.
Speaker B:Nerd, off you go.
Speaker B:Like it's time for a Paul Day power rant.
Speaker C:Use the edge of the dvd.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:And the bit in the middle.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:To put it in so you don't.
Speaker C:I've seen people, they just grab them and they just.
Speaker B:They're greasy, grubby fingers and then they.
Speaker C:And then how hard is it to click it in the middle of the hole?
Speaker C:I am still talking about DVDs.
Speaker C:You just push it down and it clicks.
Speaker C:But no, they go.
Speaker C:It's like, what are you doing?
Speaker A:I really want Paul to babysit like 24 year olds.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And a bunch of his own DVDs.
Speaker A:Wanting to watch DVDs with their jammy fingers.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Those.
Speaker B:All of his limited edition 4K Blu Rays.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm twitching as they're saying this.
Speaker C:It would be on some kind of padlock thing, locked down.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because I did buy at one point, I remember my boss said at the time, I bought like the Disney Blu Ray, what do you call it?
Speaker C:Like box collection with all of the animations, all the classics, and it's this beautiful presented thing.
Speaker C:It wasn't cheap.
Speaker C:And she said something similar like, oh, wouldn't be great if you had a small child who could look at this box set and put their greasy fingers all over it.
Speaker C:And I had a same reaction then.
Speaker C:I was just like twitching like, oh, it's too pretty.
Speaker C:I know I'm probably gonna die alone and go to hell, but.
Speaker A:Why'd you go to hell?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Just for, you know, not letting the kids watch.
Speaker A:The crime of dying alone.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:If he had somehow had kids, they would never watch a single movie ever.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:No movies for you.
Speaker C:Go to bed.
Speaker C:No, I'd probably break under the threat of small, you know.
Speaker C:Please, papa, can we watch the Disney film?
Speaker C:Only if you sit over there while I put the disc on.
Speaker C:You will not touch the disc.
Speaker A:It's cool.
Speaker A:When they're younger, you can put them in the baby cage that you get.
Speaker B:When they're very young.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So there you go.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker C:That was a different way.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker C:I expected.
Speaker B:That was a recap from a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker B:And this takes us on to this week's Question of the Week, which is sent in from Steve Marshall.
Speaker B:He emailed to say.
Speaker B:Hi, lads.
Speaker B:Love the show.
Speaker B:With all this extreme hot weather we've been having recently, it's been ridiculous.
Speaker B:I was wondering what is the hottest or coldest you've ever been.
Speaker B:We've gone off topic.
Speaker B:Not about movies.
Speaker B:This one.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I was once in Africa on safari and it was 42 degrees and it was just unbearable.
Speaker B:So much so a lot of the activities were cancelled and we ended up doing a small amount of the things we had planned.
Speaker B:But this latest heat wave we experienced here is something entirely different.
Speaker B:Warning on your thoughts.
Speaker A:I've.
Speaker A:I've been traveling.
Speaker A:I've been like Australia and Southeast Asia, but those places are set up for heat.
Speaker A:It doesn't land is bad.
Speaker A:Like it's been summers in this country that have really just destroyed me and I, I do feel validated when we see the heat waves and we see on social media like Americans caving on Nigerians being like this.
Speaker A:He just something else.
Speaker A:It's like they're in the predator jungle.
Speaker A:They're like, you don't understand it.
Speaker A:It hits different in the UK cold hardestly.
Speaker B:I've been to like Thailand, I've been to Asia, I've been to Australia.
Speaker B: n was when I was in Canada in: Speaker B:Six like that winter over there and it was minus 32.
Speaker B:Oh wow.
Speaker A:Oh, jeez.
Speaker B:It was like with the wind chill and we were, we just got there and it was New Year's Eve.
Speaker C:So we had.
Speaker B:We haven't factored in the fact that you'd have to book everywhere.
Speaker B:Everyone's booked up.
Speaker B:So we met these girls and they were like, oh, we know somewhere can go.
Speaker B:It doesn't take bookings.
Speaker B:It's only walkings.
Speaker B:Follow us.
Speaker B:And I remember all my, all my, my hat and my scarf and my head thing all folded up.
Speaker B:I could literally just see like a tiny hole out my eyes.
Speaker B:I was so cold.
Speaker B:I was just following this girl's heels.
Speaker B:She could have been taking me anywhere.
Speaker B:All of us were just following in a line.
Speaker B:Yep, go take us wherever you like.
Speaker B:And then we ended up in this restaurant and actually it was actually quite nice but everything was freezing.
Speaker B:My eyelashes were frozen, my breath was freezing instantly onto the side of my face.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was the coldest I've ever been.
Speaker B:So if you listen to this, if you've got any stories like that, tell us, let us know, hot or cold, and we'll read them out on the show.
Speaker B:Have you got any.
Speaker B:Anything, Paul?
Speaker C:Just one.
Speaker C:I think I went to a festival called Glaston Budget.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know of that one.
Speaker C:So it's basically like a.
Speaker C:It's like what they have here with the tribute festival.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:So it was one of my friends from uni's birthday.
Speaker C:She lives down near Burton.
Speaker C:Well, she's in Birmingham.
Speaker C:So we went down a bit of a uni reunion.
Speaker C:All good.
Speaker C:We bought this cheap tent, me and this other guy from uni, and the tent basically melted.
Speaker C:No, it was the other way.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It was raining that much that the tent just couldn't cope with it.
Speaker C:SHOUT OUT Argos.
Speaker C:Thanks for that tent, by the way.
Speaker C:And it just started to flood and then no matter what we did, it patched up and by.
Speaker C:At some point I just.
Speaker C:It broke me.
Speaker C:I had full waterproofs on and the waterproofs got breached and I just remember sat so cold, like.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:So I got an early train back and didn't see the next.
Speaker C:I think I only saw half of Glastonburg that weekend, which was hilarious in the sense that people got these proper festivals and do this proper full on, just living in the wild for a week or whatever.
Speaker C:I couldn't even cope with Glaston Budget with the tribute acts on a family family day out.
Speaker B:I like this going off topic.
Speaker B:I think we should do more off topic next one.
Speaker B:I'm thinking, like, best festival stories.
Speaker C:That's mine.
Speaker B:You're already in there.
Speaker C:Done.
Speaker B:So that's this week's question.
Speaker B:What is the hottest or coldest you've ever been?
Speaker B:That takes us on to the final act, next week's movie.
Speaker B:It's over to Mr. Horn.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, cool.
Speaker B:Where we going?
Speaker B:What are we doing?
Speaker A: stalgic for the original, the: Speaker B:Do we know if the new one is a remake of this or is it.
Speaker C:The new one is just Masters of the Universe.
Speaker C:It's just a new version of it.
Speaker C:So it's not remake of reimagining, It's a reimagined because don't forget it's based off the cartoon.
Speaker A:Anyway, he man.
Speaker C:So the new one is probably more like the cartoon than that one.
Speaker C:Yeah, not that I've seen both of them, of course.
Speaker C:I have seen the original many times.
Speaker C:I lived it as a child.
Speaker C:And the new one I just saw the other week.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B: e is Masters of the Universe,: Speaker B:Okay, if you want to help us here, the best thing you can do.
Speaker A:Is send us cash.
Speaker B:Send us cash, you say every week.
Speaker B:Yes, that would help, but that's not.
Speaker B:That's not what I was going to say.
Speaker B:I'm going to say hit subscribe or hit follow, whatever.
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Speaker B:Thank you very much.
Speaker B:That would help us more than you would know.
Speaker B:Okay, so that is the end of the show.
Speaker B:This is officially over.
Speaker B:This is Mark saying goodbye.
Speaker A:This is Darren saying goodbye for now.
Speaker C:Correct me if I'm wrong, but.
Speaker C:But haven't I been inside of you?
Speaker A:That was a good line.
Speaker A:I quite like that.
Speaker B:That was good, that whole scene.
