Godzilla(2014) - In A Nutshell(Listener Choice)

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Marc: 00:00:43

ce again, gentlemen, Godzilla: 2014

Darren: 00:00:53

Godzilla, you have to say: 2014

Marc: 00:00:56

There'S, there's a lot of them.

Darren: 00:00:57

Much like the Frankenstein episode where you went on and on and on about how many.

Paul: 00:01:03

Catch his breath, he just kept going.

Darren: 00:01:04

You could do the same with Godzilla. Probably.

Marc: 00:01:06

I thought about it, but I was like, no, I've made my point. Just compare it to that.

Paul: 00:01:10

There's a lot. When did they start? The 50s, I think.

Darren: 00:01:12

Maybe even earlier. Well, Frankenstein or Godzilla?

Paul: 00:01:15

Godzilla.

Darren: 00:01:15

Oh no. Godzilla.

Paul: 00:01:16

Sure, I saw.

Darren: 00:01:17

th anniversary. On the: 2014

Paul: 00:01:23

So this one we're doing is: 2014

Darren: 00:01:26

Makes sense because it's all linked into nuclear power, isn't it?

Paul: 00:01:28

Listen to choice as well.

Marc: 00:01:29

Listen to Choice chose by Emmy. And that's all we know of her name, Emi. But her Instagram handle is itakepictures of Sunset.

Darren: 00:01:36

Oh, good God. I was wondering what you're going to finish that with. Then I take pictures of my feet.

Marc: 00:01:41

So we are in part one, which is the nutshell where we break the movie down, spoiler free to help you decide if Godzilla is your kind of film. So the nutshell, what is this movie really about?

Darren: 00:01:49

Darren, the title is the Nutshell. It's Godzilla. This is. Although maybe people don't know that Godzilla is a monster, though to be fair.

Marc: 00:01:57

I hadn't seen any Godzilla's before this. But like with Frankenstein, I knew the story.

Darren: 00:02:00

Yeah.

Marc: 00:02:01

Still know exactly what happened.

Darren: 00:02:01

They say, what are those things called in what's the movie? Which is like Godzilla straight looks at Paul. Paul, what's the movie but where people get in big robots to fight them.

Paul: 00:02:10

Oh, Pacific Rim.

Darren: 00:02:11

Yeah, so it's like Pacific Rim. Like this is.

Marc: 00:02:13

You got to meet.

Paul: 00:02:14

Well, I did have King Kong meets Pacific Room.

Darren: 00:02:19

Yeah, it is, isn't it? Throw in some radioactivity or something. But yeah, this is a Monster movie. So if you like big monsters fighting stuff. That's awesome. It's Godzilla.

It's like King Kong. It's like Pacific Rim throwing a little bit of battleship.

Paul: 00:02:31

Maybe Trans Transformers. Maybe big robots fighting each other.

Darren: 00:02:34

Yeah, that's all good.

Marc: 00:02:35

Have you got a Meats, Paul?

Paul: 00:02:36

No, I haven't got Meats because it's Godzilla.

Marc: 00:02:38

I had. It's Jaws meets War of the World.

Paul: 00:02:40

Oh, that's good. I quite like that.

Marc: 00:02:42

What does Darren think of that?

Darren: 00:02:43

Yeah, I think it's good. Yeah. I was wondering if there's just another big thing like Jaws meets Honey, I Enlarged the Kids or something.

Paul: 00:02:49

Jaws meets Horrendous.

Marc: 00:02:51

Isn't that a version of that film as well? Honey, I blew up the kids.

Darren: 00:02:53

Blew up the Kids. That's it.

Marc: 00:02:54

Do you own it?

Paul: 00:02:55

Of course, honey. I Shrunk the Kids was my first movie crush on Amy o', Neil, who played Amy Silinsky, and she's on Facebook.

And she replied to me, recently made my Millennium.

Darren: 00:03:06

What did she say to you? Please stop messaging me.

Paul: 00:03:08

Yeah, got blocked.

Marc: 00:03:09

Restraining order.

Paul: 00:03:11

You know, you were my first movie crochet. Real Deal. And she was just like, yeah, thanks. No, she gave me a heart. I don't know. It was. It was very sweet. It made my year. Anyway, moving on.

Marc: 00:03:19

I've got this. This is about scale and what happens when humanity realizes it's not at the top of the food chain.

Darren: 00:03:23

Yeah, that's cool. Godzilla's always been a little bit about kind of like Gaia, Earth, energy, nature. And it's kind of the warning that we.

We are not the apex predators on the planet and we should be looking after the planet. And then usually in whatever Godzilla movie it is, we start to fuck with the planet and we do bad things.

And it's usually mining or drilling or radioactivity. And then we release stuff that we shouldn't release. It's kind of like the pantheon of gods.

So it's kind of like the Norse gods or the Greek gods, but instead of gods, you have these giant creatures and there's, like, Godzilla. But then there's. In that universe, there's. I'm going to run out Mothra. There's Mechagodzilla. I think in one of them.

Paul: 00:03:58

I'm not very good on Godzilla lore, unfortunately. I know there's just great big monsters that smash up cities and fight each other.

Marc: 00:04:04

This is kind of like any movies that are about space always make Earth and humans feel really small and insignificant.

Darren: 00:04:08

Absolutely.

Marc: 00:04:09

Like just disposable.

Darren: 00:04:09

That's Always quite fun. Because we are ants.

Marc: 00:04:11

Yeah. There's someone to something, I suppose.

Paul: 00:04:14

Going back to Frankenstein last episode. That was us trying to make life.

Darren: 00:04:19

Yeah.

Paul: 00:04:19

This is us making life by accident or mutating something by accident or even just.

Darren: 00:04:24

Just being humbled by the stuff we don't know. I saw that. I never know. Obviously, we now live in a world where you can have no idea what is true and what is not true.

But I've repeatedly seen articles and headlines saying they've discovered, like, an underwater ocean that's bigger than all of our. Not underwater oceans under Earth or the under earth oceans. It's bigger than all the oceans combined. Combined. So you're like, okay, firstly, what.

Secondly, what the hell is living down there that we've never ever come across?

Paul: 00:04:48

The lost city of Atlantis.

Darren: 00:04:50

That would be cool.

Marc: 00:04:50

Kind of about nature correcting itself.

Darren: 00:04:52

Yeah, totally.

Marc: 00:04:53

The unintended consequences of humans disrupt a dormant ecosystem, basically.

Darren: 00:04:57

Exactly right.

Marc: 00:04:58

Without understanding it.

Darren: 00:04:58

Yeah.

Paul: 00:04:59

And on the other side of it, it's giant monsters smashing up buildings. And if you like things like.

Marc: 00:05:03

That's kind of what you expect.

Paul: 00:05:04

Yeah. It's like a disaster film.

nt with the alien invasion or: 2012

Darren: 00:05:20

Matthew Broderick.

Paul: 00:05:20

That's Matthew Broderick and Gene Reno.

Darren: 00:05:23

I like it when they have names like Kong versus Godzilla or Godzilla versus this or Godzilla in Space or Godzilla Goes to Hawaii. That kind of what I need.

Paul: 00:05:30

Well, they did a few sequels after this one, and I think eventually it started to lead into Kong versus Godzilla.

Darren: 00:05:36

Yeah, they started to create a world, didn't they? But even so, I still can't work out which one came before which one.

Marc: 00:05:41

Well, we cover a lot of movies about power, usually about how to handle it, the pursuit of it, the consequence of it. But this is the opposite. This is about being powerless as humans or being forced to respond rather than to be in control, which we don't like.

Darren: 00:05:52

It's an ego check. Just stop it. We're not all that.

Paul: 00:05:55

And how do the humans react to the giant lizards attacking the city? That's pretty much it in a nutshell, isn't it? Oh, no. Giant lizards attacking city, but they're not attacking the city.

Darren: 00:06:03

It's like when we walk through a field and we're not attacking the grass because it doesn't give a fuck about our buildings. He's Just like. Well, this wasn't here before Corp.

Paul: 00:06:11

He was just trying to get to the shops or something.

Marc: 00:06:13

Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:06:13

He's got business. He's got taking care of business.

Marc: 00:06:16

It's one of those ones we can't. You have to like. There's no.

We're not spoiling because everyone knows what it's about because this is a retelling, again, like Frankenstein, of a thousand versions of this movie beforehand.

Paul: 00:06:24

is more serious than say the: 1998

This one takes itself quite seriously. If you're thinking it's going to be a bit more light hearted. Like sometimes these big popcorn monster films are.

Darren: 00:06:44

That's interesting you say that because it's got an interesting cast. It's got character actors or people I would consider character actors, not movie stars.

Marc: 00:06:51

I was surprised.

Darren: 00:06:51

And obviously Bryan Cranston is. He's just kind of Breaking Bad and you know, he's in it. And there are other actors as well. I got my notes because I've had earlier.

But yeah, it's just a lot of actors who you like. I kind of know them. Yeah.

Paul: 00:07:04

Aaron Taylor Johnson, who you may know from Kick Ass. Oh, yeah.

Darren: 00:07:06

Who's in. That was cool. Who else is in this movie? Paul?

Paul: 00:07:09

Elizabeth Olsen.

Darren: 00:07:10

was and that. But again, it's: 2014

Paul: 00:07:15

No, it was before she was in Avengers because obviously Aaron Taylor Johnson and Elizabeth Olsen were in Age of Ultron, but they played brother and sister and.

Darren: 00:07:24

They'Re making out in this movie. That's spoiler.

Paul: 00:07:26

Spoiler. But yeah, yeah, they are.

Marc: 00:07:28

You're waiting to tell them. Who else isn't it? Is that it or someone else you're thinking of?

Darren: 00:07:31

We've also got Ken Watanabe. Is that you pronounce it? I would normally say these names, like without any doubt in my mind as soon as you go onto a podcast.

Marc: 00:07:40

Red light.

Paul: 00:07:41

I'm always terrible at saying names.

Darren: 00:07:43

Juliette Binoche is another great actress.

Paul: 00:07:45

That's right. So there's people in it that you may have heard of, but maybe like you say, not big Hollywood.

Marc: 00:07:49

Yeah.

Darren: 00:07:49

Character actors.

Marc: 00:07:50

Character actors are any movies that we haven't mentioned that it could be compared to Independence Day.

Darren: 00:07:53

But Independence Day is a star movie, so it's a bit kind of cartoony. Yeah.

Paul: 00:07:57

And that's what I'm saying, this one, they do have a more serious tone in it. So if you're expecting more of the swashbuckle of Independence Day, it's a bit more serious.

But the spectacles there, you still got the popcorn spectacle of it.

Marc: 00:08:07

Thank you, gentlemen. If you listen to this, think you can do any better? What are you. What. What's your nutshell? Send it in and we'll read it out.

Darren: 00:08:12

I missed the cartoon of Godzilla. Didn't you even watch? You're near my age, aren't you?

Marc: 00:08:17

I remember the cartoon.

Darren: 00:08:18

So you must have seen Godzilla and Godzuki.

Marc: 00:08:21

Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

Darren: 00:08:22

It was like Captain Planet, but with Godzilla and a bunch of teenagers.

And then like a baby Godzilla called Kodzuki and Kazuki would come and hang out with like the teenagers and then get into trouble and then Godzilla would turn up a fight things up, like.

Marc: 00:08:36

A parent coming back to tell the kids off. Let's move on to part two, which is the unboxing. In part two, which we call the unboxing. Spoiler territory ahead.

If you haven't seen Godzilla: 2014

Paul has his formidable facts of the day.

And then we round off with Hate it or rate it where we each give our brief opinion of movie score out of 10 and then we see where it lands in our legend league or today it will be the listener league. So what did we miss? I'm going to go to you, Darren.

Darren: 00:09:12

Yeah, I haven't got much because I think Godzilla, a lot of time is just on the surface and it is just about the dangers of assuming we're the gods or the leaders or the most powerful people on the planet. And then we're going to mess with the planet and then things are going to. We're going to go too far eventually.

And even if that's just like the Arctics melting and releasing some prehistoric bacteria that's going to ravage our faces or whatever. But there's also some good international stuff, like it's good to have Ken there.

They kind of nice balance of American and Japanese, but it always tends to be American and Japanese with Godzilla. There's other countries. Why isn't. Has Godzilla ever gone to Australia.

Paul: 00:09:45

No, that's true.

Marc: 00:09:46

It's too far.

Darren: 00:09:46

Yeah.

Paul: 00:09:47

Come on. Come on. Netflix, if you're listening.

Darren: 00:09:50

Knowing in Africa's like mining for blood diamonds and releasing anyone.

Paul: 00:09:54

Godzilla could fight a giant kangaroo.

Marc: 00:09:56

Oh, yes, crocodile.

Darren: 00:09:59

And now you mention it, is a little bit racist through. What's the word I'm looking for? The absence of other cultures.

Marc: 00:10:05

To me, this seemed like Godzilla was portrayed as more of a force rather than a character. Like it's something like an earthquake or a tsunami.

Darren: 00:10:11

Yeah.

Marc: 00:10:11

Something which you just have to endure rather than understand.

Paul: 00:10:13

Well, now we're in spoiler mode, we can talk about the fact that Godzilla isn't the baddie, particularly in this one. He's almost on the home team.

Darren: 00:10:19

Godzilla's rarely the baddie, isn't he?

Marc: 00:10:21

Yeah, well, I didn't know that. I wasn't wondering if this is. This is the bit I didn't know is Godzilla always turn out to be a protector.

Darren: 00:10:27

It's almost like a God. Like if you. I don't know, let's say you worship Ares, a God of war.

And then like an enemy comes towards you, you pray to Ares to go and kick their ass. And Godzilla bas does the same.

Marc: 00:10:35

But is he always. Does that happen in all with all of these versions of Godzilla?

Paul: 00:10:38

See, I've only really seen another two, which was the 98 one and the Godzilla minus one, where he's kind of more the force of nature, not the baddie. But like you say, he's just going take care of business. But in this one, you've got these other things flying around.

Darren: 00:10:51

Yeah.

Paul: 00:10:52

And smashing up things. And then Godzilla comes to help beat up these other monsters. So I've not really seen that before.

I mean, you might have done if you've seen different ones.

Darren: 00:10:59

I've seen that many. But that's what he's doing with Kong, isn't he? Because that's what's really annoying, because he's supposed to kick the crap out of Kong.

He's like, no, Kong's on your side. Stop it. He's nice. Like, stop it. So, yeah. So depends who he's fighting, I guess.

Marc: 00:11:09

I noticed it stayed a lot. This movie stayed at ground level, looking up rather than the way around just to remind you how small we are, how big they are.

Paul: 00:11:14

And I know they were intentionally trying to do the Jaws thing where you don't see him for a while.

Darren: 00:11:19

It's like an hour or something, isn't it?

Marc: 00:11:20

It might be a bit like Jaws or Alien.

Darren: 00:11:22

It's weird, though, because it doesn't feel like there's a bad guy. Like, I mean, the bad monsters are two generic deminy type monster things.

Marc: 00:11:28

Mutos.

Darren: 00:11:29

Yeah, that was. It was massive.

Marc: 00:11:30

Massive.

Darren: 00:11:30

Unidentified Terrestrial Terrestrial Object, Something like that.

Marc: 00:11:35

Yeah, mutos. When I was looking at it, I was like, what is that? Muto? It's like, yeah, something like that.

Paul: 00:11:38

It confused me a bit, though, because the start. That's it hatching. But I'm thinking, oh, it's Godzilla. Oh, it doesn't look like Godzilla.

Marc: 00:11:45

Yeah, of course, that's what's gonna be end of its foes that were coming to us.

Paul: 00:11:47

Yeah. And then that threw me a little bit because I was just expecting, oh, Godzilla's hatching and then they're gonna chase Godzilla.

Oh, actually that's not Godzilla. Or is it a young Godzilla? A lot of the talk's scientific, isn't it, about seismic waves and causing earthquakes.

Darren: 00:11:59

Yeah, it's a lot of exposition like that. It's also weird that Bryan Cranston dies so quick.

Paul: 00:12:03

Yes.

Darren: 00:12:03

Because I think we were saying there's no any real stars, but he's kind of the biggest star.

Marc: 00:12:08

Oh, he's just called Breaking Bad, which was the biggest show in the world at the time.

Paul: 00:12:12

I remember him heavily promoting this film as well. And it was pushed in the market.

Darren: 00:12:17

Like, it's rare. That's. I mean, it's not on, say, scream levels where they kill someone very quickly. Oh, no, that's psycho. They do.

Paul: 00:12:24

Sorry. That's what I was thinking of. Yeah. Yeah. Drew Barrymore. Yeah.

Darren: 00:12:28

So it does happen. They will kind of kill off big stars, but I just wasn't expecting.

And also with this, I would think that a lot of the time it would be corporations who are the bad guys in the world of Godzilla, because it'll be the corporations who are exploiting the planet.

Marc: 00:12:39

They're the reason that really has been. This has all happened. Isn't that. Isn't it their drilling and their nuclear stuff? That's.

Darren: 00:12:44

Yeah.

Marc: 00:12:45

Interfered with them. They were dormant.

Darren: 00:12:46

Oh, yeah. Bad, Bad things, maybe, but because the.

Paul: 00:12:49

Bad things were sucking off the nuclear.

Darren: 00:12:50

As like, sucking off the nuclear.

Paul: 00:12:52

That sounds really bad.

Marc: 00:12:53

When Bryan Cranston had his seismic thing years ago, wasn't that Godzilla coming out, going into the sea because he left that trail?

Darren: 00:12:59

No, no, no. I thought that was one of the bad guys. It was like the female one, and they'd got out into the sea and then the other one broke out.

And then they started calling to each other and they. Because they get confused. They think it's calling to God but it's like. It's not calling to Godzilla. What's it calling to?

Paul: 00:13:11

This is where I got a bit confused as well.

Marc: 00:13:12

Yeah. I wasn't sure. I thought Godzilla just got out first and then these two. Then they got to these two and they came out at the same time. I don't know.

Darren: 00:13:18

Because they also wouldn't slide. It's Stomp.

Marc: 00:13:20

Yeah, I suppose he would. You're right.

Darren: 00:13:21

He's a good stomper.

Marc: 00:13:22

He couldn't really nip out unnoticed.

Darren: 00:13:24

Also, how do you guys feel when he spits that white stuff into the other thing's mouth?

Marc: 00:13:29

I was. I don't know what was going on.

Paul: 00:13:30

So I know that Godzilla has the powers to do that.

Darren: 00:13:32

Yeah. It's a second.

Marc: 00:13:33

Has he sucked in nuclear power as well? Is that what.

Paul: 00:13:36

I just think thought, why didn't he do it sooner if you could do that?

Darren: 00:13:39

He just did it in a kind of a kinky way. Okay.

Marc: 00:13:44

I definitely didn't pick up on that.

Darren: 00:13:46

Why in the mouth? Like, why not just in the face or. Why not? Like.

Marc: 00:13:49

Because it went. It went into their mouth. Into their whole body.

Darren: 00:13:51

Yeah.

Marc: 00:13:52

It started. Radiated through their entire body. Because I think. I thought because he was biting them and it wasn't really making much of.

Darren: 00:13:57

An effect, maybe I should stay off the dark web.

Marc: 00:14:00

Maybe he kept trying to puncture them and bite them and that wasn't any effect. So then he did that. That was his. Like, this is his last resort.

Paul: 00:14:06

See, my only wonder was, why did he wait so long to try that? Because they destroyed, like, I think because.

Marc: 00:14:10

He was trying to bite them, but it wasn't working.

Darren: 00:14:12

He's been fighting monsters for like 60 years. Yeah. He is old. We've got this old man kind of vibe. Is it walking around like these fucking kids. Who's woken me up now?

Particularly at the end when he's just like. I'm fucking. He's like Yoda. When Luke's yarning on an empire, Empire strikes back and Yoda just ups and dies.

Like, I'm done talking to Luke and Godzilla.

Paul: 00:14:35

That's how it finished me off.

Darren: 00:14:37

Godzilla. Oh, thank God I've dealt with him. I'm just. I'm just going to nap here for a bit.

Marc: 00:14:41

4,000 years.

Paul: 00:14:42

Another Godzilla.

Marc: 00:14:44

Yeah, but going back, we'd say about less is more. I think the sound design did a lot in this as well. Of when you didn't see that, but you heard noises and rumblings.

Paul: 00:14:51

Surround sound was definitely, definitely on. Yeah. Helicopters, rumblings.

Marc: 00:14:56

Just even bits of music would Just be very faint to the left or the back.

Paul: 00:15:00

Oh, yeah. Very atmospheric in that sense.

Marc: 00:15:02

Yeah. Alien did that as well.

Darren: 00:15:04

We also like the director of this, don't we?

Paul: 00:15:06

We do. Gareth Edwards, who did Star Wars Rogue One.

Darren: 00:15:09

We did that, I think two years after this. And before this he did Monsters.

Paul: 00:15:13

I haven't seen that one.

Darren: 00:15:14

Which I'm sure was like one of the most low budget things you could do. Like he shot it without a studio.

Marc: 00:15:19

ce Awakens was the first one,: 2016

Paul: 00:15:23

Force Awakens was 15.

Marc: 00:15:25

Was it 15? I thought it was 16.

Paul: 00:15:26

. And then: 2017

So they brought in Tony Gilroy, who was very much behind andor a lot of the reshoot stuff.

Darren: 00:15:39

That's fucking fascinating.

Paul: 00:15:40

And Tony Gilroy was, I think, the one who put that classic scene on the end of Rogue One. Without spoiling it. But if you know, you know what I'm talking about. And made it go straight into the next one. That's what I heard.

Darren: 00:15:50

Tony Gilroy may be my new God. Like, that guy's crazy talented. The fact he pulled a fandor with that budget and with that little kind of studio interference is amazed.

Okay, that's interesting.

Paul: 00:16:00

But he worked with Gareth Evans. I think I'm wrong. But how much they worked together and how much he took over, I don't know.

Darren: 00:16:04

Gareth Edwards is a young director. He's newish, you know, he's kind of. He's got the passion and the fire to want to imagine that as well. Like what these are.

What's this, his second film? His third film. Something crazy like that?

Paul: 00:16:14

Yeah, second or third.

Darren: 00:16:15

But you get to play with Godzilla and Star Wars. Go sit down.

Paul: 00:16:18

It's not a bad little combo, is it?

Marc: 00:16:20

Before you watch this film, did you already know that Godzilla was going to turn out to be a protector, not an enemy of humans?

Paul: 00:16:25

I didn't.

Darren: 00:16:25

Yeah. I mean, I didn't know for sure, but I know that that's common.

Marc: 00:16:28

I didn't have a clue. And I realized that you don't realize he's the enemy until he finishes the job, basically and leaves.

Darren: 00:16:33

Yeah.

Marc: 00:16:33

At that point it did a good job of making you. Keeping you guessing if you didn't already know.

Darren: 00:16:37

Yeah. But some of the humans kind of start to work out. Oh, let them fight.

Marc: 00:16:40

Anything else?

Paul: 00:16:40

Maybe family? I put family was important. There's the Relationship between the dad and the son.

Marc: 00:16:45

The early part of the film did a lot of the story building.

Paul: 00:16:47

Yeah. The history, them losing the mother. And then jump cut forward. He's looking for his dad, but he's now got his girlfriend. His wife.

Marc: 00:16:54

Girlfriend, wife.

Paul: 00:16:55

I think in Elizabeth Olsen they've got a son. So I put those themes of family throughout it.

Darren: 00:17:00

There's also a ton of stuff if you want to go Easter egg hunting. Loads of like homages to other Godzillas.

Like a lot of the characters names are amalgamations of say, like a director from an earlier Godzilla, but an actor from another version. And there's lots of little foreshadow. Like when you see the kid in his bedroom, he stomps over like, I know military jeeps and soldiers.

And I think that's a picture of like a monster movie thing in the background. It's also kind of like, oh, yeah, that's kind of nice.

Paul: 00:17:22

There was a lot of facts when I was looking them up. Some of them were around. There's a little bit of music in the background. That's a homage to the 50s one. Or there's a little bit of this.

Darren: 00:17:30

And yeah, it feels like it's made with love. Like they. They knew the history, they knew the law.

Marc: 00:17:34

Yeah.

Paul: 00:17:34

And I watched a bit of the behind the Scenes and it was Gareth Edwards talking about how he wanted to make this a more serious one and not as Hollywood as maybe some of the previous ones.

Marc: 00:17:42

Bit more storytelling rather than just like spectacle.

Paul: 00:17:45

Which made sense because the one I'm most familiar with, which everyone else seems to hate, is the 98 Godzilla with Matthew Broderick. And everyone was always like, oh, it's really bad. But I watched it fairly recently and really enjoyed that one.

But that's very Hollywood, tongue in cheek, Independence Day sort of humor.

Darren: 00:18:00

So Godzilla, does he go to New York by any chance?

Paul: 00:18:02

Yes, on that one.

Darren: 00:18:02

Of course it goes to New York.

Marc: 00:18:03

Yeah.

Paul: 00:18:04

I was. Remember Liam Neeson in an interview going, I don't get it. Why. Why does he always go to New York and must kill everyone? He did an impression.

I'm not going to try and do it now because I know Darren will mock me.

Darren: 00:18:12

I think Liam Neeson's dating Pamela Anderson at the moment.

Paul: 00:18:15

I believe they broke up it somewhere.

Darren: 00:18:17

No, there can be love when you get to this senior age.

Paul: 00:18:20

They were going out a bit when they were doing the Naked Gun, but maybe they broke up.

Marc: 00:18:23

Okay.

Darren: 00:18:23

Or maybe it was just marketing.

Paul: 00:18:25

Believed in love for a week and.

Darren: 00:18:26

Then the heart shriveled up once Again, much like Godzilla went back to its dormant state.

Paul: 00:18:31

Like the Incredible Hulk walking down the road.

Marc: 00:18:35

Thank you, gentlemen. Let's move on to Paul's amazing fact of the day.

Darren: 00:18:40

I'm very excited about this next word.

Paul: 00:18:42

It worries me when he says that.

Marc: 00:18:44

There'Ll be some good facts for this.

Darren: 00:18:45

They will.

Paul: 00:18:45

The sound Designers used a: 1212

Darren: 00:18:57

That must have been a good day. What'd you do today, darling? We fucked around with sound to try and make Godzilla's roar.

Paul: 00:19:03

Yeah, that's the day you want to be a sound person, isn't it? Film contains 960 visual effects shots. The 3D model of Godzilla is made up of 500,000 polygons and appears in 327 shots.

r Eric Adal with the original: 1954

He upgraded the Raw to a more organic, contemporary sound. So like we said, lots of sound stuff going on.

This and the movie was so successful that two sequels were greenlit only days after the premiere of the film.

Darren: 00:19:42

Wow.

Paul: 00:19:42

Andy Serkis, who you may know from such things as Gollum or King Kong, he provided consulting work on the film's motion capture sequences in order to control the souls, the creatures. So makes sense because Andy tends to be the go to person for any motion capture.

Still in Hollywood, Gareth Edwards described Godzilla as an anti hero. Godzilla is definitely a representation of the wrath of nature. The theme is man versus nature and Godzilla is certainly the nature side of it.

You can't win that fight. Nature's always going to win. And that's what the subtext of our movie is about. He's the punishment we deserve. Ooh, that's what Gareth said.

Our friend Gellar, Detorro. That's the one Guillermo was considered. Never gonna get Guillermo. Guillermo del Toro was considered to direct, but he was busy with Pacific Rim.

Oh, nice, because that was: 2013

spired by the Last Samurai in: 2003

Marc: 00:20:47

Oh, you mean this version? Version of.

Paul: 00:20:49

Yeah, this version. He's an ancient warrior who is the Last of his kind. And his kind has long since died out. He lives a very solitary, lonely existence.

So what we were saying, you get used to it. Get used to it. And he's very happy to keep away from everyone.

You see, Godzilla got used to it, but we keep doing things to force him to return, like put him on podcast and put things right. There you go. I am Godzilla.

Marc: 00:21:10

Do you have any idea what the screen time of Godzilla was in the movie?

Darren: 00:21:14

17 minutes, less than 10. Oh, okay.

Marc: 00:21:16

he TetsuNami evacuations. The: 2014

Thank you very much, gentlemen. Let's move on to hate it or rate it. I'm gonna go to Darren Horn first.

Darren: 00:21:34

Yeah, I hated it. But, you know, I have been struggling with food flu. I've been off work, and so maybe I wasn't in the best place, but I just.

Marc: 00:21:44

Let's find out how much he really hate.

Darren: 00:21:46

I thought it was really dull. I thought it was all the things I hate about DC films. But worse in that it was just murky, muddy scenes all the time.

Like, the cinematographer was just like, here's a mud colored lizard fighting two mud colored flying things against a mud colored city with the mud colored clouds in the sky. I said, why am I looking at. Like, nothing was nothing popping. None of the characters.

We didn't spend enough time with the characters to get to like them. And like, if we didn't. If it wasn't Elizabeth Olsen, you know, I wouldn't. I don't know the character's name.

Don't know the guy's name that she's dating. No, I don't know Brian Cranston's character's name because I don't give a fuck. And there was no sense of, like, jeopardy.

I say, Brian Cranston's dead now, so he was only interested in one. Everyone else can die, wipe out cities, I don't care.

Paul: 00:22:27

Juliet Binoche got like that big screen credit and then what?

Darren: 00:22:30

Yeah, disappeared. I was just. I don't. And those bad things, those flying lizard things, that's so generic and boring. Like, no personality.

Because he had a little bit of personality, which I quite like. The grumpy samurai kind of guy. Like, for fuck's sake. But Kong's got loads of personality. Like Mothra has.

A lot of the other things that he's fought in the past have had personality. So I was just. I just kept checking the Running time. I kept checking my phone and just being like, something cool happened, please.

Like, but it just didn't. It was just more boredom. And. And also Aaron Johnson.

Like, I know it's like, we shouldn't be attacking actors because Tarantino's kind of made it into an ick.

Paul: 00:23:06

Tarantino said he cried Juliette Binoche dying in this film.

Darren: 00:23:10

I'm losing patience with Tarantino. I think he. Let's not blame the actors. Blame the character. That was a very bland and weak leading character. I don't have anything to say about him.

I couldn't describe his personality. I can't. I can't even come up with adjectives to be like, oh, that guy was this word.

Paul: 00:23:28

I'm glad you're saying all this because these are points that I'm probably going to make too.

Darren: 00:23:32

So I just. And I. I love a monster movie. Like, I actually quite fond of the last Godzilla.

Kong one was the one when Godzilla doesn't realize that Kong's a good guy. And it's. And Kong's trying to get his attention for help. And then Godzilla's coming. He's like, no, don't attack Kong. He's asking you for help.

And he's trying.

Paul: 00:23:48

Is that. Is that in this universe as well? As well?

Darren: 00:23:50

Yeah, in this universe.

Paul: 00:23:51

Oh, wow. So this started off. Yeah, I need to watch the new.

Darren: 00:23:54

One, so that was cool. I like Pacific Rim. I love Real Steel. I love Battleship. Like, I. I'm good with these types of movies when they're good. Like. Like one will be.

But, yeah, this was generic. I think it was made with love. And I think some of the casting is interesting.

They tried to do something with it, but I think the script and for me, the color palette just. I was just murky.

Marc: 00:24:12

It's very dark.

Darren: 00:24:13

Yeah, very dark. Don't really care. Then it kind of ended. And I thought, it's ended now. Has anyone learned anything?

Has anyone had, like, a hero's journey gone through his trans transformation? Like, is their life going to be different now or they're just going to carry on doing the same and hope they don't make the same mistake?

So, yeah, what can I give it? I'll give it a three.

Marc: 00:24:29

I. I didn't hate it as much as you, but I didn't rate it that much. I really enjoyed this. I actually enjoyed the characters at the beginning, the story up until. Until the action started, really.

That's when I really started to get bored. I was just like, ah, yeah, it's.

Paul: 00:24:40

Not meant to be that way, is It.

Marc: 00:24:41

No, I've seen a lot of these people and yet, like you saying a lot of dark this and dark that and this fight and that. And it's just inconsequential. Like. Like there's. Yeah, like you said, no sense of jeopardy. It was just the same.

I was doing the same as you by that point.

Especially, like towards the end, that big when they were fighting, when he was fighting them both, you know, when the one of them goes for the guy in the boat, Godzilla attacks him from the back. Yeah, that was. I was like, again, really, like, all he was doing was. It was. It was like patterns of the action. I was like, yeah, I am bored.

But I did really enjoy the whole movie up until probably.

Paul: 00:25:07

Was it when Bryan Cranston popped it.

Marc: 00:25:09

Not long after that.

Paul: 00:25:09

Okay.

Marc: 00:25:10

Yeah. When it went. When it all started to get more, like, hyped up. So I'm probably going to give it a 5.8. 8. I actually really enjoyed that part of it.

Like this actual story until the action. So 5.8.

Darren: 00:25:20

They get a bit boredo when it's like, there's the guy who's like, oh, this thing's happening. And they're. Oh, no, it isn't. You're just a crank. Just one person believe the crank once in a while and just be like, well, you.

You probably are a psycho. But just like in World War Z where they're like, Is it the 11th man?

Marc: 00:25:35

Yeah.

Darren: 00:25:35

Like, they're like, oh, zombies are going to come. Don't be ridiculous. But one person will believe they will and move forward as though it's real. That's what we need.

What just 10 of the leadership need to be like, well, Godzilla could ARR.

Marc: 00:25:46

You know, what do you think, Paul?

Paul: 00:25:47

Well, you know, I like a blockbuster movie. Yeah. This isn't up there for me. I struggled with this one. This doesn't happen that often.

Marc: 00:25:54

You're gonna say the H word.

Paul: 00:25:55

No, I don't hate it. I don't hate it. But it's definitely not up there.

Marc: 00:25:59

When you find a movie he hates, it says it on record.

Paul: 00:26:01

I felt like the problem with this one was I didn't care about the action because I really didn't care about the characters.

Darren: 00:26:07

And, you know, Godzilla is not gonna die.

Paul: 00:26:09

Well, even before that bit, it was just. There's no. I didn't care. I made that point in the start of the nutshell about there being no humor whatsoever.

So maybe this is me because I'm these films having a bit of tongue in cheek humor because it's a monster movie. But there was. It was done very seriously. And I get why they did it, because they didn't want it to be like the tongue in cheek ones.

But I found myself going. Because there's no humor in it. Like, even when they're hanging out as a couple and things. And his characters just kind of.

And I like Garen in other films, but in this one he's just dull. And then the bit for me is it's like constructed empathy. So he's on the train. Godzilla's gonna attack the train.

We guess that's probably gonna happen. All these demi. Whatever. The cold's gonna attack it.

And it just so happens that this Japanese couple leave their son on the train for him to look after for that sequence only as if to be like, see, you care about him. Look, he's looking after this kid. It's like, no, you've just done that to make it look more. Like there's more jeopardy.

But is there more jeopardy there? Just things like that. Let's put their son on a bus. Oh, I wonder where the bus is gonna go. Oh, it's on the bridge.

And normally that sort of stuff I'm fine with. But when I'm going to myself, I think I'd rather watch Independence Day 2 than Jesus.

Marc: 00:27:15

Right?

Paul: 00:27:16

Because at least that's got Goldblum in it. Goblin being like Goldblum.

Darren: 00:27:19

And that's like. That's a humor. You can be like, yeah.

Paul: 00:27:22

And he's bantering with one of the Hemsworth brothers. And compared to the original movie, Independence Day 2 is no good.

But that's why I was thinking on watching this, I'm like, it needs some banter somewhere. Like Bryan Cranston, obviously very dramatic, but he does comedy as well. Like Seinfeld, man. He was Watley, wasn't he?

Darren: 00:27:39

He was on the whole sitcom thing.

Paul: 00:27:40

Malcolm in the Middle.

Marc: 00:27:41

Yeah.

Paul: 00:27:41

But in this film, obviously, his wife had died.

Darren: 00:27:43

Have you seen him at a Comic Con or something? And someone out in the audience calls out, and it's like, oh, I live in, like, oh, yes, I've seen that. Do you ever go. You ever. Like, Albuquerque?

Paul: 00:27:53

Yeah, I know.

Darren: 00:27:53

And he's like, only when I'm visiting your mom.

Marc: 00:27:57

Is that where, like, my job came from?

Paul: 00:28:00

One of the best gifts there is, isn't there? The bit for me was just how the main character felt like a stock character. And I started thinking to myself, I don't know.

Marc: 00:28:06

There's Brian Canson's son.

Paul: 00:28:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian crosses. So I started writing ideas like, what if Robert Downey Jr. Was playing this? What if Michael Keaton was playing.

You know, would they have given it a different layer of just, I am a soldier man and I am out for revenge.

Darren: 00:28:19

What if Charlie from Always something in Philadelphia.

Paul: 00:28:22

Yes. Charlie Day. Could whoever just started picturing other people in the role going like, yeah, I wonder what they'd have done with it.

Darren: 00:28:28

Even. Even the Rock, like, the Rock has charisma, right?

Marc: 00:28:31

Yes.

Paul: 00:28:31

So if you'd have thrown him at.

Marc: 00:28:32

This, it'd have been behind him doing something.

Paul: 00:28:34

And I just felt bad for Aaron. It's like, is it the script? Is it him? I get he was trying to be really serious. Stop defending now. Well, I do this.

Marc: 00:28:41

What's his go watch his God.

Paul: 00:28:42

Because on the other side of it. No, no, no, no. Let me give the positives as well. On the other side of it. I think you're right. There's a lot of love.

That's why I ended up looking at interviews of Gareth Edwards because I felt so bad. And he clearly had a passion for it. He was clearly trying to make something that was serious and not too hulky and Hollywood.

But again, I like the 98 one, so what judge am I? Because everyone else seems to hate that one.

But I like the banter between Matthew Broderick and Gene Reno and everything that was going on in that one. And there was loads of shots in that. Remember you mentioned you saw the trailer where there was the fisherman.

Marc: 00:29:11

Yeah.

Paul: 00:29:11

And the guy. Moments like that. Really. Like, even if you hated Godzilla, you'd still remember that moment. Or the bit where the foot hits in New York.

There was also no tension, no tension with it. So I'm gonna give it just purely. Cuz the surround sound was really good and the effects were pretty good. Even though it was a bit murky in places.

I'll give it a five, guys.

Darren: 00:29:29

You can't see Paul's face, how much it's hurting him to give something an average grade. I know, but there's so many talented people. The makeup artist did a really good job.

Paul: 00:29:38

Well, I shouldn't have watched the behind the scenes snippets.

I watched on YouTube because it made me feel for them more looking how much had gone into the creation of trying to make it as Godzilla as they could. But yeah, I felt nothing about the characters.

And when Aaron Taylor thing, he was reunited with Elizabeth Olsen, I'm like, oh, in the big arena, they've just found each other. That's nice. Whereas you compare that to Will. Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum.

Walking at the end of Independence Day where they're smoking the cigar and then Bill Pullman's there, and he's like, you know, those things will kill you. I could get you used to it. There's banter and character there.

Darren: 00:30:09

I would take the end of Con Air over this.

Paul: 00:30:11

Oh, well, there you go, right?

Darren: 00:30:13

He's like, I got you a Barney, and he's mauled and killed.

Paul: 00:30:16

But there's character there.

Darren: 00:30:17

Hug your father. It's okay, honey.

Paul: 00:30:20

If you've just tuned in, you're not listening to the audio description of Con Air, but it might seem that way.

Darren: 00:30:26

But there is a great episode on Conair that you can go and check out.

Paul: 00:30:28

Oh, nice plug.

Darren: 00:30:29

Conair is a trashy movie as well, but I think we probably scored higher than this.

Marc: 00:30:33

This score scored 13.8.

Darren: 00:30:35

Oh, that's low.

Marc: 00:30:35

Which is the lowest 13th place on the Listener League.

Darren: 00:30:39

Oh, wow.

Paul: 00:30:40

Nothing below it.

Marc: 00:30:41

No.

Paul: 00:30:41

Oh, wow.

Marc: 00:30:42

Because Obviously we had 12. 12 months.

Paul: 00:30:43

I feel really bad now.

Marc: 00:30:44

So this is the third 13. It's gone at the bottom with Conair. We gave Conair 16.

Darren: 00:30:48

It's good because sometimes Mark gives the listeners too much power, so it's good to take him down a package.

Marc: 00:30:52

I'd give the listeners all the power. Instead of us three idiots, we try.

Paul: 00:30:55

And stop him, but he just gives you the power.

Darren: 00:30:57

Godzilla is putting the listeners in their place like the ants they are.

Marc: 00:31:03

So, yeah, this is. This is 13.8 in 13th place, and Conair was 12 with 16. So we give.

Darren: 00:31:08

Wow.

Marc: 00:31:09

There you go.

Paul: 00:31:09

I also normally, as you know, try and write quotes. As I go through these memorable quotes, I have one that I'm gonna say, let them fight.

But there wasn't any standout quotes either, where I'm thinking, oh, which one do I pick? Because Darren's gonna shout at me.

Darren: 00:31:21

And there's another. I think we may have talked about this on other episodes, about how some movies, they impact the zeitgeist, and it's like a.

Everyone kind of knows what it is or talks about it, and we quote it and we quote, you know, whether it's Jaws or Alien or whatever. Yeah, but I can't quote Aquaman. Can't quote this Godzilla. Like, it's just generic.

Paul: 00:31:37

It's nice that it maybe led on to some of them. Other ones that I haven't seen.

Darren: 00:31:40

People quote Devil Wears Prada. People quote Matrix. You know, some. Some are just hit. They land differently.

Paul: 00:31:45

Now that's what I call a close encounter. Welcome to Earth.

Darren: 00:31:48

Is that Independence Day or Close encounter.

Paul: 00:31:49

It was Independence Day.

Marc: 00:31:51

So, Emmy, that's what we thought of it.

Paul: 00:31:52

Sorry, Emmy.

Marc: 00:31:53

Wonder what Emmy thinks of our thoughts. Let us know. Send us a message, Emmy, Let us know what you think and we'll follow. Follow this up on one of the up and coming episodes.

Darren: 00:31:58

But it's all good. It's a great thing right now is there's so many movies you can find something that you like if she.

Marc: 00:32:03

If she really loves this. I'm sorry if we've pissed on your parade, but that's just what we thought.

Darren: 00:32:06

And on any given day, we may have liked this a lot more.

Marc: 00:32:09

You know, you're definitely a specialist at that.

Darren: 00:32:10

Yeah.

Paul: 00:32:11

I'll watch it again just because I feel bad.

Marc: 00:32:13

I. I would watch this again because it's probably things I've missed in it and just because it was the first time I'd seen it. So.

Paul: 00:32:19

And sometimes if you go into a film expecting something and it's not what you're thinking is you don't enjoy it. So there's films I've watched again that I've enjoyed more. The second time this. I'm going into this the second time going, okay, there's no humor.

There's no turning in cheek. There's no character fun.

Marc: 00:32:31

So for you listening to this at home, what did you think? Send us your opinions. We'll read them out on the show. So let's move on to part three, which is the listener lounge.

In part three, which we like to call the listener lounge, we have the lobby where we share your comments, your questions, and your message messages. Then we ask our question of the week, and we finish off by revealing next week's movie.

So over in the lobby, Ben Cully, one of your former students, has messaged in. He talked about It's a Wonderful Life. He says, love the episode. On It's a Wonderful Life, it was his choice, so he was delighted to win.

Darren: 00:33:02

Good choice.

Marc: 00:33:03

It was a good evaluation of such a film. Just good. Not great, not fantastic, just good.

Paul: 00:33:07

We tried.

Marc: 00:33:08

And the topic especially surrounding men's mental health was something I totally missed while watching it previously. Despite obviously being a capital head. Very big part of the film.

Thank you, gentlemen, for the commentary, continued entertainment, and happy you guys rated it as highly as you did, too. The bit at the start about me possibly being AI was very funny also.

Darren: 00:33:23

Why do we think it was AI?

Marc: 00:33:24

I can't remember.

Paul: 00:33:25

I think it was because.

Marc: 00:33:26

Because we didn't know his name and who it was.

Darren: 00:33:28

The weird thing is, people have spoken about it's A Wonderful Life for as long as I've been able to speak. Never once has anyone said the film Suicide in relation to that movie or.

Marc: 00:33:37

About mental men's mental health.

Darren: 00:33:39

Yeah. And it's about a guy wanting to kill himself. Like what the fuck?

Marc: 00:33:41

Basically. Yeah. His life bringing him to that end.

Paul: 00:33:43

And I had someone else come at me and say they'd listen to the episode and really appreciated the kind of of take going into the deep dive on that as well. So.

Marc: 00:33:49

So Tom W. Has messaged again after he was the one who told us the Christmas tradition about they always watch the same bad old tape over again and if it got worn they wouldn't know what to do. But he forgot to mention what film it was.

Darren: 00:34:00

He did. Yeah.

Marc: 00:34:01

He's met his message back. It was Die Hard.

Paul: 00:34:03

Of course it was.

Marc: 00:34:05

Apologies for forgetting to mention probably the most important of that story. But I just have my last shift before a couple of weeks off over Christmas. Plus I was a little drunken on the toilet having a poo in my local.

Darren: 00:34:16

That's great. That's good visualization. Thanks for that.

Marc: 00:34:19

Why would you think to message it? I forgot to tell them what movie it was. I've done it.

Paul: 00:34:23

Better do it now. There you go, listeners. Too much information.

Darren: 00:34:27

I like that level of information.

Marc: 00:34:29

Keep them coming. If you want to send us a message, guys. Anyone listen to this, Join the conversation. You can send us a voicemail or a voice message.

If you go to movies in a nutshell.com There's a little button there. Send a message in from you directly from your phone. You can email us hello Movies in a nutshell dot com. Or just messages on your socials.

hat did you think of Godzilla: 2014

So one of our previous questions of the week about from Matrix about the pill choice. I put a vote on socials. 73% red, 27% blue.

Darren: 00:34:58

I never remember which one's which is red. To get out the Matrix.

Paul: 00:35:01

Yes, take the red pill and go into Wonderland or take the blue pill and stay in Wonderland.

Darren: 00:35:06

Before I'm taking any pill, I'm jumping into any fairy ring, I'm saying whatever name Beetlejuice, Candyman into the mirror three times. I want out.

Paul: 00:35:14

That's red.

Marc: 00:35:15

Red.

Paul: 00:35:15

Then you want yes.

Darren: 00:35:16

Yeah.

Marc: 00:35:16

So the majority of ours went for that 27. There wasn't an option for maybe.

Paul: 00:35:21

I'm not sure if you're faced with Lawrence Fishbone as Morpheus, what are you gonna do? He's only giving you the two choices.

Darren: 00:35:27

I'd go through the Stargate.

Paul: 00:35:29

Would you go into the Minecraft portal?

Darren: 00:35:31

Oh, God. I say only one. I get to blow it up.

Marc: 00:35:34

The Cumbrian. Cumbrian skater rat has messaging and said people are comment on it. Said red pill always. I would follow Morpheus down a rabbit hole.

I don't want to be a battery. And then be turned into to soup when I run out of charge.

Darren: 00:35:44

I thought that was going to be convenient. I don't want to be a battery. Hen. Oh, hen. How you doing? Love being called hen. I'm in called hen for a while.

Marc: 00:35:51

So yeah, majority of ours were with me and you. Red pill.

Paul: 00:35:54

What did I take?

Marc: 00:35:55

You weren't sure but you were leaning.

Darren: 00:35:57

More towards it would involve an adventure pool. And much like the Hobbit, you'd like to stay home with your books.

Paul: 00:36:01

Kind of. But in this case, I'm going to take the red pill.

Darren: 00:36:04

Good man.

Paul: 00:36:04

Yeah, I'm terrified. But let's do it.

Marc: 00:36:06

Come with us.

Darren: 00:36:07

Good to fears.

Marc: 00:36:10

He's like, don't want to go with you too.

Paul: 00:36:12

I wouldn't be as confident as Neo was. Like just plug into this thing. I'd be like, I have a lot of questions before I do this.

Darren: 00:36:18

Just have faith.

Marc: 00:36:19

And also Scott Wiggles will sent us a message. He's put. Have you thought about doing an episode dedicated to your favorite movie props or physical set builds from movies?

There are a ton of movies with amazing physical props like the ZF1 rifles from the Fifth Element, which have become cult classics and fan favorites. Others include Ector 1, any of the Batmobiles, Star Wars X Wings, Saber Hill Hilts, Lightsaber Hilts. Oh, yeah, of course. And droids and even Bonds.

Various rides. Just a thought. Let's make it the question of the week. What are your favorite movie props? And we'll show you ours if you show us yours.

Paul: 00:36:48

Oh, thank you.

Darren: 00:36:49

Stand back. I reckon I like the pulse rifle from Aliens.

Marc: 00:36:54

Do I have you to own any movie props?

Darren: 00:36:56

No, I have done in the past, I feel like. Oh, and yeah, in the past I had a lot.

Marc: 00:37:00

What have you had?

Darren: 00:37:01

Actually, I think it was mainly tv. I definitely had some stuff to do with the. Actually, you know, it's comics. It was Sandman had a lot of stuff from that. I definitely have had props.

I can't remember much of it. I remember spending quite a bit of money on things and then feeling really annoyed that I'd done that. We are going back three and a half Decades.

Marc: 00:37:16

A while.

Darren: 00:37:16

Yeah. But I definitely had stuff.

Paul: 00:37:17

I feel like if I started on props, I wouldn't stop. So I don't really have any I can think of. I have lots of movie related stuff.

Marc: 00:37:23

I went to your house recently. Like the Batmobile.

Paul: 00:37:25

Yeah, I've got lots of movie stuff everywhere. But. Yeah. Not actual props from a film, which would be amazing if I did.

Marc: 00:37:31

Paul's house is really cool, by the way. It's lots of lights and DVDs and Blu Rays.

Paul: 00:37:35

I like to think it's how you imagine it would look like for a movie.

Marc: 00:37:37

Exactly how I. Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:37:39

I have not been. I haven't been invited.

Paul: 00:37:41

Well, you did say you were gonna wreck it at one point and then I left maniacally.

Darren: 00:37:45

I don't remember saying that.

Paul: 00:37:46

You were like, we could wreck it.

Marc: 00:37:49

And do that though. Would he?

Paul: 00:37:50

I don't know.

Marc: 00:37:51

There you go.

Paul: 00:37:51

Who knows? He's a. He's a loose cannon.

Darren: 00:37:53

I'm kind of bipolar. It's entirely possible.

Marc: 00:37:55

So that's this week's question. What are your favorite movie props? We'll show you ours if you show us yours. Takes us on to next week's movie, which is.

Darren: 00:38:04

Oh, me, is it?

Marc: 00:38:05

It's not you.

Darren: 00:38:06

Oh, yeah, cool.

Marc: 00:38:06

It's me.

Paul: 00:38:07

Stand down.

Marc: 00:38:08

Panic on Darren's face. That's me. So I've held off on this for some time, but I'm gonna go for one of my favorite movies, Enemy of the State.

Darren: 00:38:14

Oh, I saw that. I remember that coming out.

Marc: 00:38:16

So that's 98.

Darren: 00:38:17

Yeah. So yeah, I'll be 21 as a 90.

Marc: 00:38:22

So 17. Yeah. So I went to the cinema seat like twice. Three times. I think it was one of the first movies where I went multiple times.

Darren: 00:38:28

Let's see what I remember. Will Smith's obviously in it. Gene Hackman as well. Love Gene Hackman.

Marc: 00:38:33

Do you own this, Paul?

Paul: 00:38:34

Yes. I had it on vhs. I've now got on dvd.

Darren: 00:38:37

I remember the producers because it was Bruckheimer and Simpson, but I don't remember the director.

Paul: 00:38:40

It was Tony Scott.

Darren: 00:38:41

Tony Scott.

Paul: 00:38:43

So the same team behind Top Gun. Days of Thunder.

Darren: 00:38:46

Tony Scott often feels like Michael Bay.

Marc: 00:38:48

But a little bit certain style.

Darren: 00:38:49

Yeah. You can easily get them muddled up. Although Tony's tends to go a little bit more. I know, like Greenies. Have you seen like Domino and stuff?

And you can mess around with Edison a bit more. Whereas Michael Bader. More explosions.

Paul: 00:38:59

Yeah. Michael Bay does love an explosion. That's true.

Darren: 00:39:01

There's that phrase. Bayhum.

Marc: 00:39:03

Yes.

Darren: 00:39:04

Michael Bay's Mayhem Enemy of the State.

Paul: 00:39:06

Was probably the second film I saw at the Hollywood Park Barrow in Furnace.

Marc: 00:39:11

Oh, I know it well.

Paul: 00:39:12

Apollo Cinema.

Marc: 00:39:13

Yeah.

Paul: 00:39:13

And it was when it just opened and I think I'd seen you've got mail there randomly because that was like a special preview of the new cinema.

And then me and my brother went to watch Enemy of the State and it's the first time we had like digital Dolby surround sound and it was like mind blowing. Good because there was helicopters and everything flying around. So, yeah, it's a fond memory for me.

Marc: 00:39:32

So this is a movie. I've got a good movie story to go with it.

Paul: 00:39:35

Excellent. Do they have to tune in next?

Marc: 00:39:37

They have to, yeah. Otherwise you won't get this story. It's pretty funny. Next week's movie is Enemy with the State. My choice. So thank you for listening.

We appreciate you taking your time at your busy life to spend some time with us. This episode is officially over. This is Mark saying goodbye.

Darren: 00:39:50

This is Darren saying goodbye for now living.

Paul: 00:39:52

I can't find my pants.

Darren: 00:39:54

I have no clue where that quote came from.

Paul: 00:39:56

Godzilla.

Darren: 00:39:57

Godzilla said that?

Paul: 00:40:01

No, Aaron Taylor Johnson said that. And I was like, that's the line. I'm using that.

Darren: 00:40:05

Okay, that's.

Paul: 00:40:07

I can't find my.

Marc: 00:40:08

That's hilarious. That's the memorable line for the film. Yeah, it says a lot. Really? That's what I thought.